Well size and the pc software is a huge pile of poo.

As to real player if you are careful when installing and take proper precautions like let it do nothing it wants, hiding my hammer, it isn't too bad i took the extra precaution of installing it on my girlfriends pc as well. Maybe that is why she dumped me though :P

i think the ipod is slinkier a bit more polished, behind the riot in quite a few areas but ahead in others but as you should know they can't kick sand in the face of a empeg.

The riot with empeg type software and file taxi abilities would rule but from the sneaks about the pearl i will buy one.

I know son of emplode is out for the new flash type rios i might get bored and download it and see if it likes the riot or not.

I don't know if the new software for the riot is offical i have a feeling it ain't

Unless rob wants to comment