I also like the idea of being able to get a different stand if I choose and that is not an option with the apple display. They should have made the base removeable.

I ordered two of the 213t's from www.bcd2000.com . I ordered 2 day ups and they sent them ground ( morons)

Now I suppose I will have to fight with them to get the shipping back.

Matt,

Please let me know how this turns out. I'm eager to learn about your experience with the quality (dead pixels) and their customer service.

What did you end up getting them for? What card are you going to drive them with?

- Thanx
- Jon

I paid 2659.00 for two of them.

Here is the video card I got http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9520vs/overview.htm
It's not high end but it has dual dvi and supports a high enough resolution.

I'm not happy with BCD2000 after they screwed up the shipping. Then today I called them about it and they said they would refund the difference between ground and 2nd day. Well on their website ground is 29.00 they told me that is wrong and charged me 40.00. Not a big difference but I think they should have refunded the entire cost of shipping since they screwed it up.

I am supposed to have the lcd's on monday.
I got the videocard from newegg and that will be here wensday since they didn't screw up.

Matt,

Did you get the monitors yet? Did you also look at the Samsung 211-MP?

On Pricewatch.com, they show a dealer selling the 191t for $605 now...

Hm.

- Jon

I just got them hooked up about 5 minutes ago. I am going to try and run a LCD test program to see jo many bad pixels there are. I don't see any yet but it's allot of area to cover.

here is a picture

Very nice.

I ran an lcd test which cycles through black, red, blue, green, and white screens. I have one dead red pixel out of two monitors.

Observations so far they look alot bigger than they did in the store

They are very bright I have the brightness set a 25%.

I have the resolution set to 1600 X 1200 and I haven't changed the font size so the text is much smaller but is it still easy to read.

I need to make / find some 1600 X 1200 wall papers.

Quite a few 1600x1200 wallpaper images here

Wow, they look great! So one dead red pixel is nothin'. You aren't worried about that, right?

What's the deal on that 211-MP monitor? Did you look at that one as well?

- Jon

No i'm not worried about one pixel I am amazed ! I would have never found it if I didn't use the lcd test program. How often do you have an all red screen. (now blue and I'd worry )

The 211 has no DVI so I didn't consider that one. From what I have seen these things look awful when using VGA but didn't get to see a 211.

Now I need some new speakers the old ones won't fit on the desk anymore

I would like to find a mount that would hang the screens from the shelf above them.

I get my wallpaper from http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi these days -- it only comes at 1024x768 but they usually scale well. Today's is a bit so-so but they have some real corkers from time to time.

Peter

Woohoo! National Geographic! My mom is an editor and researcher there, and sometimes writes a bit of the web content

Ok Matt,

So I finally saw both the 213t side by side with the 191t. The 213 kicked it's ass. Gotta get one (at least one for now).

Before I drop the cash, do you have any other feedback about the monitor? Any regret? Anyone have any strong reasons for why I shouldn't get it? (Samsung coming out with a replacement or somethin?)

- Jon

I'm glad you got to check them both out side by side. I know I would have been disappointed if I got the 191t then saw the 213t.

I haven't had any problems yet. No regrets. I was overwhelmed at first by the size (looks smaller in the store syndrome) and I probably didn't need two but that hasn't stopped me from buying stuff I don't need yet

I couldn't find any info about new models comming out but I thing the 213t was released recently. The world of LCD's doesn't appear to be as hyped as other PC hardware.

I haven't read anything good or bad about the warranty.

Since I got two I can do this though

Ok. My eyes have just turned green. Or they would have if they hadn't already been green. I need those monitors.

Those are gorgeous. I went to Best Buy to check them out the other day, but they annoyingly had it hooked up to the same video source feeding all their other displays, which made it impossible to test it out under its real resolution.

Does anyone know of a program that will let you test out different "resolutions" at different "screen sizes" through software? I only ask because the thing keeping me back from LCDs is that I can't shift resolutions easily, and if I want to test a website for sizes I like to change the screen rez.

I haven't read anything good or bad about the warranty.

Bought a Samsung 181T a while back, and had it fail hours after being used. Called Samsung, and they had a new in box unit shipped next day air. Though, they forgot the RMA tag, and no longer have the replacement in their system, so I now have a dead 181T sitting in a box. Anyone know a place that does LCD monitor repairs? I think it might just be a bad backlight, and if it's not too expensive, a second LCD on this desk might be nice.

To test it you could try getting a strong torch/flashlight and shining it onto the LCD itself. If it's the backlight then you should be able to make out something.

Matt,

Man, those are beautiful. I'm trying to order one now. I decided that one is enough for now...

I think I'll be able to get one for 999.95...

- Jon

Hmmm... may we perhaps be permitted to know how you wrangled that deal?

My company is a strong partner with a company from this list: http://marketingsamsung.com/epp/

I'm still working on it, but I think I'll get that price...

- Jon

Ok, this employee purchase thing didn't work out. I just ordered it from www.upgradesource.com for 1192.00 plus shipping (28.95 for ground).

What tool did you use to check for dead pixels?

- Thanx
- Jon

I didn't see that store the price sounds good.

I will try and find it again I deleted it already.

Here it is.

I found it in this thread on the [H]ardOCP forums.

Thanks Matt!

- Jon

Anyone know a place that does LCD monitor repairs?

Well, never mind. Got brave, tore open the panal, and found a loose connector between the power module and the signal input board. Plugged it back in nice and tight, and now I have 2 Samsung 181Ts on my Shuttle.

Not really sure if I want a dual DVI card right away though. I'll be getting a 15 inch Powerbook soon, and until I can afford a DVI KVM, having one free DVI port between the two monitors is nice.