#195414 - 31/12/2003 03:00
V3 Beta5
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Question... Besides all the new techincal features/advances in v3... Does the interface "look" any different? I'm just curious as to see if it's been changed at all. If it has, could I see some screenshots? Thanks..
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#195415 - 31/12/2003 11:59
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Narkotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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No, it does not look any different. In fact, a lot of its code is from an earlier version of the 2.0 tree, back when there were still certain features not yet implemented, and certain bugs not fixed. The main advantages in the 3.0 portions of the code tree are related to the new 3.0 audio engine, the same one that's used on the Karma. Primarily what you get with 3.0 is: crossfade, pitch bend, OGG, and FLAC. Otherwise there are no new improvements in the user interface and in fact there are some features missing and some old bugs cropping up again.
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#195416 - 31/12/2003 12:30
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: tfabris]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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is FLAC functional already? i thought that it wasn't implemented yet.
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#195417 - 01/01/2004 13:26
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Narkotic]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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Please also note that there is no V3 Beta 5. You must be getting confused with V3 Alpha 5.
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#195418 - 01/01/2004 22:47
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Narkotic]
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stranger
Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 33
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The main advantages in the 3.0 portions of the code tree are related to the new 3.0 audio engine, the same one that's used on the Karma. Primarily what you get with 3.0 is: crossfade, pitch bend, OGG, and FLAC.
How can I upload FLAC files?
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#195419 - 01/01/2004 23:05
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: tgnb]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I don't know, I never tried. It's possible I'm wrong about it. I was under the impression that the 3.0 codebase supported FLAC, but I never actually used a FLAC file on either the Karma or the Car player, so maybe I was wrong.
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#195420 - 02/01/2004 02:40
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: genixia]
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Registered: 20/02/2002
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oops... damn, and i'm a software developer!
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#195421 - 03/01/2004 13:35
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: tfabris]
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stranger
Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 33
Loc: earth
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I don't know, I never tried. It's possible I'm wrong about it. I was under the impression that the 3.0 codebase supported FLAC, but I never actually used a FLAC file on either the Karma or the Car player, so maybe I was wrong.
 get my hopes up for nothing why don't you  oh well maybe some day
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#195422 - 03/01/2004 17:28
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Narkotic]
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addict
Registered: 03/03/2002
Posts: 687
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
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Uhm..
Also, isn't is "Alpha3"? and not "5"? At least, that's what my player says when it boots up.. If there IS a '5' out there, I'd like to start using it. 
Me.
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#195424 - 03/01/2004 21:07
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: tman]
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Registered: 03/03/2002
Posts: 687
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
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It's a bit late but Merry Christmas!
Okay, I feel REAL DUMB now.. I have no clue how I missed that in the first place.
Muhahaha! Mine is an evil laugh!
Sorry. Thanks!
Me.
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#195425 - 04/01/2004 10:03
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: tfabris]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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well, with some inital experimentation, .flac files aren't imported by jemplode. but i wanna see if i encode with OGG encapsulation (i think its similar to the old .wav encapsulation of mp3 files; tho i forgot for what reason that was for). hopefully, it'll work. more updates when i experiment more.
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#195426 - 04/01/2004 10:35
Re: V3 Beta5
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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well, with some inital experimentation, .flac files aren't imported by jemplode. but i wanna see if i encode with OGG encapsulation (i think its similar to the old .wav encapsulation of mp3 files; tho i forgot for what reason that was for). hopefully, it'll work. more updates when i experiment more. Flac encapsulated in Ogg is not currently supported by the car-player (or, for that matter, by Karma). For now it's ".flac" files only.
Peter
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#195427 - 04/01/2004 11:23
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: peter]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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is .flac importation enabled in emplode v2.1? also, even if we do get it on the empeg, is v3a3/5 going to play it?
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#195428 - 04/01/2004 11:41
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: image]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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is .flac importation enabled in emplode v2.1? also, even if we do get it on the empeg, is v3a3/5 going to play it? To answer your questions in strictly reverse order, v3a5 plays flac, v3a3 doesn't, Emplode (I think) can't put them on and you have to use Jemplode. Unless, that is, someone fixed Emplode while I was off over Christmas, which is always possible.
Peter
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#195429 - 04/01/2004 12:06
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: peter]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Gah. Maybe I should try alpha 5 on one of my other players, because it still doesn't work with the database on the player with all the music.
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#195430 - 04/01/2004 12:20
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: peter]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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well, jemplode doesn't import flac as of yet either. <peers at our favorite java guru>. just tempted to rename my flacs as ogg, and see what happens.
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#195431 - 04/01/2004 12:22
Re: V3 Beta5
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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well, jemplode doesn't import flac as of yet either. <peers at our favorite java guru>. just tempted to rename my flacs as ogg, and see what happens. The "codec" tag will get set incorrectly, and the vorbis decoder will fail to play it with extreme prejudice.
Peter
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#195432 - 04/01/2004 12:39
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: peter]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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if i recall, we can manually set the codec tag in jemplode. what should it be, btw?
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#195433 - 04/01/2004 13:16
Re: V3 Beta5
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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if i recall, we can manually set the codec tag in jemplode. what should it be, btw? "flac" (or "mp3", "wma", "wave", "vorbis").
Peter
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#195434 - 04/01/2004 13:47
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: image]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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There is a new jEmplode at http://www.inzyme.com/rio/empeg ... The installers are still the old versions (they just take forever to upload), but the individual jar files, etc are new.
So the deal is that as long as you use the jar file of jEmplode, it is bundled with Rio Music Manager Lite's jar file which DOES have FLAC support. So it checks to see if you have rmmlite in your classpath and enables FLAC if you do. If anyone happens to know of an open source java flac parser, I will include it and provide source ... In the meantime, if you want to use FLAC, it will have to be binary only for the time being. If anyone's uncomfortable with that, you can use the non-binary version and it just won't get FLAC.
I haven't kept up with all the changes, but they're roughly:
Fast database rebuilds (turn it on in Options)
Tag syncing on duplicates (turn it on in Options)
Commandline full database rebuild ( java -classpath jemplode.jar org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.RebuildDatabase <ipaddress> ) -- This should rebuild an alpha5 db for you.
I haven't kept good notes on this release, but there are a bunch of misc fixes and tons of fixes inherited from Rio Music Manager Lite. There are still quite a few things people have reported, but it's been so long since I did a release, I just wanted to get this out there.
ms
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#195435 - 04/01/2004 15:13
Jemplode v48 (!)
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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The fast database rebuild works for me (didn't try flac).
But on my v3a5 player (the only one I've tried), after a fast rebuild, the player does not get restarted (should it?).
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#195436 - 04/01/2004 15:20
Re: Jemplode v48 (!)
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Yeah it should be .. Actually it looks like it's not restarting after any rebuild except a rebuild-on-failure. Whoops.
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#195437 - 04/01/2004 15:27
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Seems like it doesn't want to deal well with my "large" database (only 12k songs, actually); On the first try it died, probably out of memory. 46 and 47 are both fine. Should any of the changes cause increased memory usage?
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#195438 - 04/01/2004 15:36
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Hm. Running it again shows it's only using 10% of the system memory, but panning in the top level of "Playlists" is taking 90% of the CPU. Curious.
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#195439 - 04/01/2004 16:14
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Not sure what would have changed ... can you run it from a console and hit Ctrl-Break and send me the output?
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#195441 - 04/01/2004 16:53
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Well, just running in an xterm, just letting it open the database and doing nothing else, I see:
Unknown fid type for fid 272 titled ""
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.inzyme.container.ContainerSortableContainer.getSize(ContainerSortableContainer.java:33)
at com.inzyme.sort.ContainerSortUtils.linearSearch(ContainerSortUtils.java:172)
at com.inzyme.container.ContainerUtils.getChildContainer(ContainerUtils.java:92)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.getContainer(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:87)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.getContainer(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:89)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.initialize(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:127)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.initialize(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:111)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.SoupUtils$SoupInitializeRunnable.run(SoupUtils.java:324)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:554)
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
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#195442 - 04/01/2004 16:58
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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The right answer is that I should install eclipse again (the previous laptop had it and I didn't bring it with me to the Mac) but at the moment I'm taxiing files and so my disk is ~full. Blah.
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#195443 - 04/01/2004 19:41
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Are you running the jemplode jar directly? if so, try running it:
java -Xmx128M -jar jemplode.jar
If you're running the app bundle, then I need to look, but in one of the properties files you should be able to specify the max memory that can be used by the VM ... Jack that up if you find it.
By default it will only get 64M of RAM max, which maybe (obviously) is not enough to handle a db of that size ... Surprising though. Do you have a lot of soups? Soups eat memory, I think (and processor at least initially)
ms
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#195444 - 04/01/2004 19:43
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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That keybinding is Ctrl-\ on Linux .. maybe the same on OS X. But I would jump the memory up first .. you might be seeing weird problems related to the outofmemory situation.
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#195445 - 04/01/2004 21:35
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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That must be it. I run 47 from the "app" the installer blatted down, and just ran the jar directly to try this one. I have several soups. Let's find out.
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#195446 - 04/01/2004 21:38
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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With the 128 setting I don't get out of memory errors. I still get the following, but it doesn't seem to make jEmplode unusable.
Of course, popping up "Options" and trying to scroll results in the options window moving down the screen while it's scrolling, which is bizarre, but presumably isn't related.
Unknown fid type for fid 272 titled ""
java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.inzyme.container.ContainerSortableContainer.getSize(ContainerSortableContainer.java:33)
at com.inzyme.sort.ContainerSortUtils.linearSearch(ContainerSortUtils.java:172)
at com.inzyme.container.ContainerUtils.getChildContainer(ContainerUtils.java:92)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.getContainer(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:87)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.getContainer(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:89)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.initialize(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:127)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.AbstractTagSoupUpdater.initialize(AbstractTagSoupUpdater.java:111)
at org.jempeg.nodestore.soup.SoupUtils$SoupInitializeRunnable.run(SoupUtils.java:324)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:554)
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#195447 - 04/01/2004 21:45
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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On Linux-x86, I get totally silent output when running it from a terminal window.
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#195448 - 04/01/2004 21:46
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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#195449 - 04/01/2004 21:50
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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Dunno. About 5600 tracks, though.
What's in your fid 272 that it is complaining about? 272 = 0x110, so look at the 111 file and also try to view it with Hijack:
http://your.players.ip.addr/?FID=111&EXT=.htm
Cheers
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#195450 - 04/01/2004 21:51
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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Note: 110/111 are the "Unattached Items" soup list.
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#195451 - 04/01/2004 21:55
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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In reply to:
Of course, popping up "Options" and trying to scroll results in the options window moving down the screen while it's scrolling, which is bizarre, but presumably isn't related.
I just fixed this a couple minutes ago for RMML ... It appears to be a bug in Apple's Java impl when I turn on the brushed metal look. The next build will have that turned off which fixes the problem.
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#195452 - 05/01/2004 12:30
Re: Jemplode v48 (!)
[Re: mlord]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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The fast database rebuild works for me (didn't try flac). tried flac, and it loads great. gonna see if it crashes v3a5 in my car. what i'd like to see is seeing the speed improvement on a database rebuild for pgrzelak.
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#195453 - 05/01/2004 14:10
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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stranger
Registered: 10/06/2002
Posts: 35
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Perhaps I did something wrong here as I could still not get a database to work with alpha 5. I downloaded the jemplode.jar file and pointed by shortcut to it instead of the jemplode.exe created with the installer. Well, I did the manual rebuild from the command line with having alpha 3 on the player. It completed with no real errors. Then upgraded to alpha 5 and it went into the databse rebuild loop as all have seen. No database found. Tried to then do the command line rebuild and it would do nothing... Got a java error and no database. Then went back to alpha 3 and tried a simple upload and was having huge problems such as described by others with out of memory errors. I have a Mark2A model with 80GB on 2 hard drives and I've got close to 20,000 songs on it. I've been unable to do any sort of uploading of songs using Jemplode 48 and had to go back to emplode to even sync it all after failure and lockup of Jemplode 48. Did I do something horrible wrong or is it the size of my database or why can I not seem to get alpha 5 on like others have?
Jemmi
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#195454 - 05/01/2004 14:28
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: jem7784]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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You shouldn't need to do anything with alpha3 anymore ... I just installed alpha5 and ran the commandline rebuild. When you say you got a java error, can you include the full stack trace of that error?
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#195455 - 05/01/2004 15:00
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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stranger
Registered: 10/06/2002
Posts: 35
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I am at work now and cannot do anything with this until the earliest tomorrow night as far as reflashing to alpha 5 and trying again. I am wondering if my huge database is causing problems
Jemmi
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#195456 - 05/01/2004 15:07
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: jem7784]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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If you have a huge database, memory problems definitely aren't helping the situation ... I need to profile jEmplode again now that things have changed so drastically behind the scenes. Maybe I'm doing something silly.
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#195457 - 05/01/2004 15:08
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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enthusiast
Registered: 16/02/2001
Posts: 373
Loc: Switzerland
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Hello Mike,
Does this "Commandline full database rebuild" also work on a Windows PC?
Thanks a lot in advance...
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#195458 - 05/01/2004 15:09
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: crazymelki]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Yep .. it's all pure java. I actually develop on Windows.
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#195459 - 05/01/2004 15:16
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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enthusiast
Registered: 16/02/2001
Posts: 373
Loc: Switzerland
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strange....
I get the following message:
C:\>java -classpath jemplode.jar org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.RebuildDatabase 192.168.0.51
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jempeg/empeg/protocol/RebuildDatabase
Same message, when I change to the jEmplode directory..
bye
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#195460 - 05/01/2004 15:22
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: crazymelki]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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unless your jemplode.jar is located at c:\, you're gonna need to change the directory to its location.
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#195461 - 05/01/2004 15:24
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: crazymelki]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Sounds like you don't have the latest jemplode.jar (http://www.inzyme.com/rio/empeg)
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#195462 - 05/01/2004 15:25
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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it might not be able to find jemplode.jar either -- you should fully qualify the path to jemplode.jar in the commandline to be on the safe side too
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#195463 - 05/01/2004 15:40
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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enthusiast
Registered: 16/02/2001
Posts: 373
Loc: Switzerland
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yeep...That was the problem...Thanks..
It haves to look like this:
C:\Program Files\jEmplode>java -classpath lib\jemplode.jar org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.RebuildDatabase 192.168.0.51
And Hijack must be installed....
Thanks a lot
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#195464 - 05/01/2004 19:54
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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There is a new jEmplode at http://www.inzyme.com/rio/empeg
ACK, DANGER! From the debug output it looks like you have the early version of my ftp upload code in there. That version will cause strange, bizarre, and hard to recover from things to happen on dual drive players if "Use hijack when possible" is enabled in the options (it doesn't properly reuse fids). I sent another patch at some point, but it must not have made it in to this build.
The attached patch should be applied on top of what is already in there. In the meantime please don't use this version on a dual drive player with hijack enabled!
-Mike
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#195466 - 05/01/2004 20:22
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mcomb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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cool, thanks. now, how do i apply it?
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#195467 - 05/01/2004 21:11
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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cool, thanks. now, how do i apply it?
We need mschrag to do another release with that patch applied unless you feel like building jemplode from source. If he doesn't poke his head in soon I'll but up a temp version somewhere after I get dinner.
-Mike
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#195468 - 05/01/2004 21:30
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mcomb]
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journeyman
Registered: 23/09/2003
Posts: 50
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So, I have "Use hijack" disabled, and I'm using the given command line to rebuild my player database, but all the playlists vanish. When I re-launch jEmplode, it forces a media check, and then reports "There isn't a file with FID 2 on this device."
Yes, I have a dual-drive Mk2a. =(
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#195469 - 05/01/2004 21:35
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mcomb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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Ughh, I just looked at the source and that patch may have been applied, but then Mike rewrote some of my code and duplicated one of my earlier bugs. Mike, take a look at HijackUtils.uploadFid(). That function needs to check both drives for the fid number before uploading and either reuse or delete existing fids otherwise you can end up with two copies of the same fid on a dual drive player (one on each drive). At one point I had a findFid() function in there that was intended to do that, but it isn't in this version.
-Mike
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#195470 - 05/01/2004 21:41
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Defiler]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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So, I have "Use hijack" disabled, and I'm using the given command line to rebuild my player database, but all the playlists vanish. When I re-launch jEmplode, it forces a media check, and then reports "There isn't a file with FID 2 on this device."
Yes, I have a dual-drive Mk2a. =(
That is not going to be related to the bug I mentioned, but for what it is worth I had the same problem. Does the new on PC database rebuild work with version 2 of the player software?
-Mike
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#195471 - 05/01/2004 21:52
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mcomb]
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journeyman
Registered: 23/09/2003
Posts: 50
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I'm not sure if the rebuild process works with 2.0. I don't have any MP3s on my player at the moment, but I could roll back to 2.0, encode some, and try it. Would that be valuable test data for you, or should I just wait for a fix?
Speaking of patches.. I tried to apply the patch you linked earlier, but my Windows copy of "patch" behaves very oddly.
I tried "patch -p3 < whatever_the_patch_was_called.txt", and it just created a subdirectory called "-p3"
I was too lazy to send the files over to a Linux box with a 'real' patch tool.
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#195472 - 06/01/2004 09:36
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mcomb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Ack .. Sorry about that.. I shuffled things around a bit to do the database rebuild stuff. I'll fix this tonight when I get home. I don't remember seeing the findFid function, but I'll restore from CVS ... Now I have to try and remember what problem I was trying to solve by /removing/ it ... I'm terribly lazy with cvs messages when I'm not at work.
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#195473 - 06/01/2004 09:38
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Now you see why I didn't post a top level thread about 48 being out I knew this one would be sketchy ..
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#195474 - 06/01/2004 12:09
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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I don't remember seeing the findFid function
It could be cleaned up with your RemoteFid class, but the basic idea is attached. My guess is you removed it because it was kind of a hack and then forgot to replace it with something better
-Mike
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#195475 - 06/01/2004 14:48
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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journeyman
Registered: 23/09/2003
Posts: 50
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While we're on the topic, and all anxiously waiting for updated tools.. Heh.. Should it be possible to use the Logo Editor plugin in 48? I don't have any entries on the Plugins menu in 48.. I had to fire up 47 in order to change animated boot logos.
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#195476 - 06/01/2004 15:48
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Defiler]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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If you're just running 48 by running the jar separately, it won't find the plugins ... Once I get the real installers up (after I get 48 to work right ), it will put them in the right place and setup the classpath properly ...
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#195477 - 07/01/2004 07:01
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Defiler]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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OK everyone .. My sat connection has been down for the past 3 days, but now that the "helpful" folks at DirecWay have me back up on a new frequency, I can actually get some work done at home. So I'll work on these problems when I get home tonight.
ms
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#195478 - 07/01/2004 07:07
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mcomb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Ah hah .. I see waht happened ... I never applied your second patch. Remember when I had you resend the first patch? I had a brain fart and was thinking that was both of them together, which it wasn't. So I never actually did have those fixes ... I have the email w/ the second patch though. Checking it out now.
Thanks for catching that Mike ...
ms
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#195479 - 07/01/2004 17:30
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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i broke the database rebuild by doing the following. i deleted a file completely, then created a new playlist. i then said, i dont need that playlist, so i went to the pending operations, and deleted that event that created it. when i synced, it died on updating All Music.
now, this was all good since i could try and rebuild the database on v3a5 manually. but here's what happened:
[RemoteFid: name=101; path=/empeg/fids0/_00000/; fullPath=/empeg/fids0/_00000/101; fid=257]
playlist = adjusted to 7 entries
[RemoteFid: name=111; path=/empeg/fids1/_00000/; fullPath=/empeg/fids1/_00000/111; fid=273]
playlist = adjusted to 0 entries
[RemoteFid: name=181; path=/empeg/fids0/_00000/; fullPath=/empeg/fids0/_00000/181; fid=385]
playlist = adjusted to 0 entries
com.enterprisedt.net.ftp.FTPException: Failed.
at com.enterprisedt.net.ftp.FTPControlSocket.validateReply(FTPControlSocket.java:436)
at com.enterprisedt.net.ftp.FTPClient.initPut(FTPClient.java:380)
at com.enterprisedt.net.ftp.FTPClient.putBinary(FTPClient.java:422)
at org.jempeg.empeg.util.HijackUtils.upload(HijackUtils.java:149)
at org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.RebuildDatabase.main(RebuildDatabase.java:166)
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#195480 - 07/01/2004 18:23
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: image]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Is it possible you ran the commandline and something else was running on your Empeg also? This is basically failing when uploading /empeg/var/tags. Can you check and see if there's anything weird looking about that folder on your Empeg? Does the file exist or not?
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#195481 - 07/01/2004 19:13
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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yup, its there. the serial log give a lot of errors. here's the tail of it.
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids0/_00001/fd1) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids1/_00001/fd1) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids0/_00001/fe1) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids1/_00001/fe1) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids0/_00001/ff1) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids1/_00001/ff1) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids0/_00002/001) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/fids1/_00002/001) failed, rc=-2
kftpd: open(/empeg/var/tags) failed, rc=-30
hijack: Remounting read-only: /
and i think its mounting the wrong partition rw. it says /, but isnt it supposed to be the music partitions?
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#195482 - 07/01/2004 21:07
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Note to self: caches that never clear, have no upper bound, and get hit a lot with unique values are not healthy for memory use
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#195483 - 07/01/2004 22:00
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: mschrag]
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new poster
Registered: 07/01/2004
Posts: 13
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#195484 - 08/01/2004 03:37
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: self]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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ROFL!
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MkIIa, blue lit buttons, memory upgrade, 1Tb in Subaru Forester STi
MkII, 240Gb in Mark Lord dock
MkII, 80Gb SSD in dock
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#195485 - 08/01/2004 05:52
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: frog51]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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That was excellent!
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#195486 - 08/01/2004 15:17
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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/me laughs
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#195487 - 28/01/2004 19:06
Re: V3 Beta5
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old hand
Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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after a few tries, i have come to a two fold conclusion on my RebuildDatabase errors.
first of all, the reason why it can't write the /empeg/var/tags file is because it sets / as rw, not the music partitions. this is demonstrated by me actually running 'rwm' right before executing the command, and it has no trouble writing all of the necessary files. this becomes unnecessary if we do it from the GUI, since the sync makes the music partitions writable.
but unfortunately, the resulting database is corrupt. i imagine that its because you're counting the number of kftp err=-2 lines before terminating the fid scan. i imagine this is to prevent jemplode from scanning way past the maximum fid. this is fine and dandy for most, but i recently deleted the first 2000 songs that i first uploaded, and probably decimated the _00000 and _00001 directories totally as a result. so it only gets to /_00002/ (actually, its _00003 now, since i started uploading and probably reusing the deleted fids) before terminating and trying to write the tags and database3 files.
so, if this is what really is happening (didnt look at the source, so be gentle), might i suggest recursively doing an ls -al in ftp and parsing the results, instead of blindly trying to read fids?
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#195488 - 31/01/2004 20:05
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: tfabris]
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journeyman
Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
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So... I'm just having issues
I've installed the Alpha 5 upgrade on my Mk II, and I have NONE of my playlists... I've tried rebuilding the playlist db using the command from the command line that have been suggested in other threads and it ran just fine with no errors... But still no love on the playlists... When going into the playlists on the emepeg it just says "None".
Also, how would I upload new tunes if I can't connect to it through jEmplode or emplode?
I get Out of memory errors while using emplode when it rebuilds the db, and nothing happens at all in jEmplode...
I can use any and all help...
(Btw - I've been waiting over a year and a half for crossfade support, and this is the ONLY reason I ever tried putting the alpha upgrade on here... If anyone has another solution, i'd be willing to entertain those options... And yes, for those that are wondering I am impatient, and maybe worse, I am stubborn as all hell )
Joey
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#195489 - 31/01/2004 20:12
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: thedon]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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I've installed the Alpha 5 upgrade on my Mk II, and I have NONE of my playlists... I've tried rebuilding the playlist db using the command from the command line that have been suggested in other threads and it ran just fine with no errors... But still no love on the playlists... When going into the playlists on the emepeg it just says "None".
That's what I get. I'm not willing to go through and figure out what it's choking on so I went back to alpha 3.
(Btw - I've been waiting over a year and a half for crossfade support, and this is the ONLY reason I ever tried putting the alpha upgrade on here... If anyone has another solution, i'd be willing to entertain those options... And yes, for those that are wondering I am impatient, and maybe worse, I am stubborn as all hell )
Alpha3 has crossfade, and mostly works otherwise. I can upload music to it and rebuild the database.
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#195490 - 31/01/2004 20:22
Re: V3 Beta5
[Re: Daria]
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journeyman
Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
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Where do I get my hands on alpha 3?
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