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#199729 - 22/01/2004 12:37 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: tfabris]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
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Well put.

I think leaving out the word "binary" for the logo text (or whatever that's called). I think it has a better impact just having "1000" by itself, and it looks better. If people don't get it, too bad, maybe they shouldn't buy one in the first place. Plus, it can always be explained if need be.
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#199730 - 22/01/2004 12:39 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: ricin]
wfaulk
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I agree 1100100%
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#199731 - 22/01/2004 12:39 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Well at this stage, I am going to do it. I am going through the process with them now
I can't wait!

One thing, though. You're not going to get in any legal trouble over this are you since the "Magic 8 Ball" is a Tyco product? I have no idea about such things, but I'd hate to see you get sued for selling them over ebay.
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#199732 - 22/01/2004 12:48 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: JeffS]
ricin
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Mattel, actually. I don't think there'd be a problem, that company (PromoBrands) would have to have permission to manufacture the custom versions in the first place, right?
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#199733 - 22/01/2004 12:50 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Put me down for a few!

I was going to say they are authorised manufacturers, but since they use the term "8 ball" and then "Fortune Balls" I guess not. Perhaps they licence the design but not the "Magic 8 Ball" name?

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#199734 - 22/01/2004 12:53 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: ricin]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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I think leaving out the word "binary" for the logo text (or whatever that's called). I think it has a better impact just having "1000" by itself, and it looks better.
I wonder how you could clearly indicate that it's a binary value without saying Binary. You could do Hex with "0x08", but what's the proper notation for binary?
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#199735 - 22/01/2004 12:57 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: tfabris]
JeffS
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I wonder how you could clearly indicate that it's a binary value without saying Binary.
I don't know how it would look on the eight ball, but you could do something like

10010100101001
10011000110111
10001000110000

where the background numbers are REALLY faded.
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#199736 - 22/01/2004 13:01 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: tfabris]
pgrzelak
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Greetings!

Actually, I like the word binary there. Visually, it serves to orient the unit (I know the 1 is in a font that you can tell if it is upside-down, but...) and kind of balance the image.

As for the legal aspects, the packaging is from the manufacturer, so it would not have the words "magic" or "eight" or "ball" anywhere associated with it. I personally would use a weird term like "techie thousand sphere"...


Edited by pgrzelak (22/01/2004 13:04)
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#199737 - 22/01/2004 13:05 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Mathematically, bases are indicated by a trailing subscript of the base in decimal.

In many computer languages, hexadecimal is preceded by `0x', as you say, and octal is preceded by `0', but binary isn't generally allowed, as it's just as easy and nearly as understandable to use hex or octal with the added benefit of taking up much less space. I suppose he could have it be `010'. `0x8' isn't particularly interesting, though.
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#199738 - 22/01/2004 13:07 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
wfaulk
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I'm not inclined to buy this kind of gewgaw, but I know that I'd think it was cool if it said `1000', but be inclined to call it amateurish and desperately pandering if the word `binary' followed. Make the font something obviously computerish, like OCR-A, if you think it needs some added implication that it's binary.
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#199739 - 22/01/2004 13:19 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Maybe it would be enough to say "001000"?
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#199740 - 22/01/2004 13:19 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
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Loc: San Carlos, CA
I would buy a couple. Would like to see 'RTFM' and 'Wetware error' as options

-Mike
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#199741 - 22/01/2004 13:31 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: JeffS]
JeffS
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Just to follow this through (and because it looked awful in my post), see the attachment for what I was thinking.


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#199742 - 22/01/2004 13:33 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: JeffS]
tfabris
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I like that idea.
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#199743 - 22/01/2004 15:37 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: ricin]
foxtrot_xray
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Registered: 03/03/2002
Posts: 687
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Aside from that, we'd never say that they're "our own", just custom..
There's nothing wrong with buying something at the store, then selling it on eBay. People do that alot, it seems..

Me.
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#199744 - 22/01/2004 15:46 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
skibum
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Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 248
Loc: Swindon, UK
Gonna need about 30. Hopefully by April 19th if possible. The 1st meeting of our team. Shame its in the UK, but can't have everything. People coming in from 10 countries.
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#199745 - 22/01/2004 15:51 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
DLF
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Registered: 24/07/2003
Posts: 500
Loc: Colorado, N.A.
At ~$10-12 each, I'm in for qty. 8 or ~$100 worth, whichever is greater. You're now taking down all our orders, right?

And as a tech writer, I have to second the vote to slip in "RTFM" there somewhere. That said, I trust your judgement.
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#199746 - 22/01/2004 16:16 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: DLF]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Hold the orders and projections for a little while. I am still going ahead with the minimum 1000 order, but even best case we are still talking about a 60 day delivery cycle. I would not expect to see anything actually arrive until the early part of April. Once I get a firm delivery date, I will post something in the For Sale forum and let people know they are near.

When I get the final proof text and logos, I will post them here for people to look at.
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#199747 - 22/01/2004 17:54 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
g_attrill
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I guess if you're shelling out for the tooling you don't want to rush choosing your answers.

Another one: "PRESS CTRL+ALT+DEL"

Gareth

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#199748 - 22/01/2004 18:50 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
subscript 2 to the right of the number.

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#199749 - 23/01/2004 07:14 Re: custom magic 8 balls [Re: pgrzelak]
ShadowMan
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Registered: 09/06/1999
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Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
I dreamed about this last night... put me down for one as well I guess!

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