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#209843 - 18/03/2004 23:17 Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a frame?
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
One account, when the task manager is started the outside frame, menus, and tabs are missing. On a different account they are there. Any body know why this would happen?


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#209844 - 19/03/2004 00:01 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a frame? [Re: gbeer]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Double-click it.
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#209845 - 19/03/2004 08:36 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: gbeer]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
double-click it somewhere not in the titebar, menu, or process list

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#209846 - 19/03/2004 10:18 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: mschrag]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Huh. I never knew that. Weird.
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#209847 - 19/03/2004 10:33 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: wfaulk]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
It is clearly one of those odd ball features that some developer thinks it neat and no one notices before it is too late to take it out.
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#209848 - 19/03/2004 11:11 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: wfaulk]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Yeah, that bit me unexpectedly a few months back. Drove me nuts. Thank goodness for Google Groups.
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#209849 - 19/03/2004 15:05 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: andy]
brendanhoar
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Registered: 09/06/2003
Posts: 297
> oddball features

Not having seen the behavior, how is a badly drawn window a feature?

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#209850 - 19/03/2004 15:19 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: brendanhoar]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Not having seen the behavior, how is a badly drawn window a feature?

Because it allows you to have a James Bond villian's computer style full screen display of just the CPU activity graph. Someone at MSFT clearly thought it was cool, back in the days of NT3.1 (or was it there IBM's code before that ?)
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#209851 - 19/03/2004 16:48 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: andy]
cmtempeg
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Registered: 29/07/2003
Posts: 66
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Actually, I find it useful. Sometimes I want to have the cpu graph while I'm working (always on top) but the entire window takes up way too much space. Solution? Dbl-click the task manager and make it about the size of three horizontally aligned postage stamps, then move it out of the way.

Sure, there are third party utilities that can do that but this is built in.
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#209852 - 19/03/2004 17:59 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a fr [Re: brendanhoar]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
how is a badly drawn window a feature?

Because it's not "badly drawn":



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#209853 - 19/03/2004 18:54 Thanks yn0t_ re: M$ Landmines [Re: tonyc]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
I'll be go to ....

I was having problems with a process that wanted more than 2GB. Everything was slow. I might have clicked several times trying to get a responce. Then they all caught up, just about when I pulled the plug. Gaaahhh.

Thanks yn0t_
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#209854 - 19/03/2004 21:15 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a frame? [Re: gbeer]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
I thought hitting ESC did the same trick, but alas, that's in the old Win9x "System Monitor".

While we're on the topic of monitoring tools, is there any bundled Win2k tool like ol' System Monitor?

SysMon lets me choose which graphs I want to see AND can be so compact, I can keep it always open in the bottom corner of my screen. So, it shows me CPU load, Free memory (which is kind of useless), Bytes read/sec, and Bytes written/sec. Very handy for all kinds of stuff.

I know I could use an MMC snap-in that shows the resources, but it's not quite as compact as ol' SysMon. Are there any other utilities that could monitor those four simple things AND stay tucked in a tiny window on my screen? Thanks.
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#209855 - 20/03/2004 03:15 Re: Why would w2kpro's taskmgr appear without a frame? [Re: FireFox31]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Win2k tool like ol' System Monitor?

PerfMon. It's System Monitor on steroids.
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