Then try this!

Not that I think too many people here are undecided . . .

1 Kerry Score: 78%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes


2 Kucinich Score: 78%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military No


3 Sharpton Score: 76%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office No
Served in the Military No


4 Bush Score: 8%

Party Republican
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes

Compare with other candidates

Same order, but the numbers slightly closer to moderate (68%, 68%, 64%, 25%.) Not that Kucinich or Sharpton matter...

Looks like in the US I'd be a hardliner: democrats all in the low 80s, Bush 4.

Peter

87% for Bush, but I sure don't like the guy.

I forget mine exactly, but Bush was in the 50s and Kerry in the 40s, which basically means none of these people represent me very well, but then I knew that already.

I got 16% for Bush...certainly much higher than I had thought I would. Oh well, I am not a rabid anti-gun type and am pro-Nafta, so I guess it makes some sense. Still hate his guts of course.

You know, looking at the list of issues between Kerry And Bush, I wonder why some people say that there is no difference between the political parties. Every time I hear someone say something like that it strikes me as a ridiculously stupid thing to say, and seeing all the issues lined up like this drives that point home.

Of course, there are some issues that both sides agree on that aren't listed like, say, opposition to real campaign finance reform. *sigh*

I wonder why some people say that there is no difference between the political parties. Every time I hear someone say something like that it strikes me as a ridiculously stupid thing to say, and seeing all the issues lined up like this drives that point home.

OK, since I'm one of those stupid people, I'll don my fire-walking boots.

You alluded to why there's no difference in the parties by referencing campaign finance reform, as did Dick Clarke the other day when he said "Morals have nothing to do with it; it's POLITICS." A lifetime of public service used to be thought of as a good thing; now voters just assume you're a pro poll-watcher, career suck-up whose opinions, if not actual votes, are for sale to special interests. Sure, environmentalism is one of my (and the Dem's) special interests and defense contractors and drug companies are the GOP's. That doesn't mean there's any moral difference in which set of whales you're whored to.

I'm reminded of the story about George Bernard Shaw at the party, wherein (I'm grossly paraphrasing) he asks the lady (who hates him) if she'd have sex with him for a $10 and she says of course not, and then asks if she'd do it for a million bucks and she says, well maybe so, and finally asks if she'd do it for $100, and she says "What kind of person do you think I am?" and he replies, "We've already establshed that; we're just hagling over price."

Kucinich: 89%
Sharpton: 84%
Kerry: 78%
Bush: 2%

Of course, that doesn't take into account that Sharpton is a race-baiter.

Oh, and as hard nosed as I am about things, I think it's important to note that I voted really how I feel about those issues, not trying to force the score in one direction. I left many no-opinions and quite a few somewhats.

Bush: 71%
Kerry: 40%
Sharpton: 35%
Kucinich: 26%

1. Bush Score: 79%
Party Republican
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes

2 Kerry Score: 39%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes

3 Sharpton Score: 30%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office No
Served in the Military No

4. Kucinich Score: 21%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military No



Hmm.. looks like Bush is the closest match for my beliefs.
Tom

1 Bush Score: 71%

Party Republican
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes

Compare with other candidates




2 Kerry Score: 45%

Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes

Compare with other candidates




3 Kucinich Score: 29%

Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military No

Compare with other candidates




4 Sharpton Score: 21%
Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office No
Served in the Military No

1 Sharpton Score: 74%

Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office No
Served in the Military No


2 Kucinich Score: 72%

Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military No


3 Kerry Score: 70%

Party Democrat
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes


4 Bush Score: 14%

Party Republican
Has Held Elected Office Yes
Served in the Military Yes


Someone at AOL Time Warner did this deliberately to piss me off.

I [censored] can't stand Al Sharpton.

Looks like in the US I'd be a hardliner: democrats all in the low 80s, Bush 4.

4 years over here must have moderated me;

Kerry 78%
Kucinich 76%
Sharpton 72%
Bush 14%

1 Sharpton Score: 74%

I actually voted for Al in the democratic primaries

> ...voted for Sharpton...

Is there a term for voting in the other parties primaries? Spoiler?

-brendan

This was a no brainer:

Kerry 82%
Kucinich 80%
Sharpton 76%
Bush 13%

No surprises for me.

1  Kerry: 70%
2  Kucinich: 69%
3  Bush: 18%

- trs

Bush: 71%
Kerry: 41%

87% for Bush, but I sure don't like the guy.

Yep, seems a pretty common remark. Know a lot of people who would support Bush if it wasn't for the overriding concern that he is just disasterous for both the US and the rest of the world. Weird situation.

1 Bush Score: 78%
2 Kerry Score: 39%
3 Sharpton Score: 28%
4 Kucinich Score: 18%

Ugh, Peter, you seem to be even more extreme than myself :

Kucinich 83%
Sharpton 75%
Kerry 73%
Bush 6%

Here's another one that includes more candidates:

http://www.selectsmart.com/PRESIDENT

For the record:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Green Party Candidate (89%)
3. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (79%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (79%)
5. Socialist Candidate (78%)
6. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (77%)
7. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (72%)
8. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (70%)
9. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (66%)
10. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (63%)
11. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (58%)
12. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (48%)
13. Libertarian Candidate (39%)
14. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (35%)
15. Constitution Party Candidate (17%)
16. Bush, President George W. - Republican (13%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (11%)

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate.   (100%) 
2. Libertarian Candidate   (65%)  
3. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat   (65%)  
4. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat   (59%)  
5. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat   (56%)  
6. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat   (56%)  
7. Green Party Candidate   (55%)  
8. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat   (53%)  
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat   (52%) 
10. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat   (49%)  
11. Socialist Candidate   (48%)  
12. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat   (46%) 
13. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat   (33%)  
14. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat   (28%)  
15. Bush, President George W. - Republican   (27%)
16. Constitution Party Candidate   (25%)  
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law   (13%)  

Not too suprised to see the low results, since my views seem to be wildly mixed. I believe in more of enforcing existing laws instead of making more worthless laws in a number of cases, like gun control, drugs, and such.

Are brits allowed to see which one they would least object to have running the world?

Kerry 74%
Kucinich 64%
Bush 21%

1 Kucinich Score: 85%
2 Kerry Score: 73%
3 Sharpton Score: 72%
4 Bush Score: 10%

Oh, what to do??!?! I didn't realize that Kucinich was so close to me. Maybe he'll run again.

Wow, they dug up someone I'd like less than GWB!

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Green Party Candidate (95%)
3. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (88%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (84%)
5. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (83%)
6. Socialist Candidate (83%)
7. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (80%)
8. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (78%)
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (76%)
10. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (74%)
11. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (63%)
12. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (49%)
13. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (45%)
14. Libertarian Candidate (32%)
15. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (12%)
16. Bush, President George W. - Republican (11%)
17. Constitution Party Candidate (4%)

This one at least let me choose gun laws and a welfare state like Britain's -- issues on which even Britain's right-wing party is rather to the left of the leftmost option available in the first questionnaire.

Peter

Weirdly enough...turns out that Kerry is my second choice.

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (78%)
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (53%)
4. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (48%)
5. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (48%)
6. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (45%)
7. Libertarian Candidate (42%)
8. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (40%)
9. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (36%)
10. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (35%)
11. Constitution Party Candidate (25%)
12. Socialist Candidate (22%)
13. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (21%)
14. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (21%)
15. Green Party Candidate (19%)
16. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (16%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (11%)

Bush did much better on this one . . .

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (73%)
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (52%)
4. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (50%)
5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (47%)
6. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (46%)
7. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (46%)
8. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (35%)
9. Libertarian Candidate (33%)
10. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (25%)
11. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (23%)
12. Constitution Party Candidate (22%)
13. Green Party Candidate (19%)
14. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (19%) 15. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (17%)
16. Socialist Candidate (15%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (4%)

Weirdly enough...turns out that Kerry is my second choice.

Mine too, on both tests.

Ok... number 2 I expected, but where the heck did number 3 come from?
1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (63%)
3. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (47%)
4. Libertarian Candidate (44%)
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (42%)
6. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (40%)
7. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (37%)
8. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (36%)
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (35%)
10. Constitution Party Candidate (28%)
11. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (26%)
12. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (22%)
13. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (21%)
14. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (20%)
15. Green Party Candidate (16%)
16. Socialist Candidate (14%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (8%)

but where the heck did number 3 come from?

Not suprising given that Kerry is up there pretty high too (as well as on my list and MBM's). Lieberman is fairly moderate I think so it doesn't shock me he faired well.

1 Kucinich Score: 68%
2 Sharpton Score: 64%
3 Kerry Score: 63%
4 Bush Score: 8%

I wonder what the differences between you and I were that made then closer to your position than mine. I would have expected the opposite.

Know a lot of people who would support Bush if it wasn't for the overriding concern that he is just disasterous for both the US and the rest of the world.

I bet a lot vote for him anyway.

Wow, they dug up someone I'd like less than GWB!

Oh crap. The Constitution Party told me that they wouldn't announce my candidacy yet.

My results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (79%)
3. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (39%)
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (35%)
5. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (32%)
6. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (27%)
7. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (23%)
8. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (18%)
9. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (13%)

I must me listening to too much right wing talk radio.

Your Results:

1. Bush, President George W. - Republican (100%) Click here for info
2. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (21%) Click here for info

Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (72%) Click here for info
3. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (70%) Click here for info
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (67%) Click here for info
5. Socialist Candidate (65%) Click here for info
6. Libertarian Candidate (49%) Click here for info
7. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (31%) Click here for info
8. Constitution Party Candidate (8%) Click here for info
9. Bush, President George W. - Republican (6%) Click here for info

tanstaafl.

> I must me listening to too much right wing talk radio.
>
> Your Results:
>
> 1. Bush, President George W. - Republican (100%) Click here for info
> 2. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
> 3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (21%) Click here for info

That's crazy. I mean, I can only assume that the 1,2 ordering was alphabetical when they both hit 100%. Otherwise...that's just crazy!

-brendan

PS - took the other test a coupla months ago: Sharpton, Kucinich, Dean...etc. As everyone else did, I winced at Sharpton on top...

Lieberman is fairly moderate I think so it doesn't shock me he faired well.

If by "moderate" you mean "a Republican" or "wolf in sheep's clothing", then you're not far off. (Hell, "wolf in hyena's clothing".)

even Britain's right-wing party is rather to the left of the leftmost option available in the first questionnaire.

Yeah, pretty much the same deal with Canadian candidates, last time I checked up on them.

After delesecting the checkboxes to show everyone:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Green Party Candidate (82%)
3. Socialist Candidate (75%)
4. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (72%)
5. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (69%)
6. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (67%)
7. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (65%)
8. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (63%)
9. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (57%)
10. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (54%)
11. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (52%)
12. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (46%)
13. Libertarian Candidate (45%)
14. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (29%)
15. Constitution Party Candidate (18%)
16. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (11%)
17. Bush, President George W. - Republican (9%)

Ha, ha.... even the Natural Law party beat out Bush.

On the first webpage:

1 Bush Score: 63%
2 Kerry Score: 53%
3 Sharpton Score: 41%
4 Kucinich Score: 34%


On the second:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (60%)
3. Libertarian Candidate (57%)
4. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (51%)
5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (49%)
6. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (47%)
7. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (47%)
8. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (42%)
9. Green Party Candidate (42%)
10. Socialist Candidate (36%)
11. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (35%)
12. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (35%)
13. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (35%)
14. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (23%)
15. Constitution Party Candidate (19%)
16. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (19%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (10%)


I find it amusing that everyone here appears to strongly disagree with Hagelin.

--John

I find it amusing that everyone here appears to strongly disagree with Hagelin.

If the Natural Law party in the US is the same as the one in Canada, have you ever taken a look at what those guys espouse? They're just outright batty! Unless the questionnaire asked about your thoughts on yogic flying, crystal healing, karma, and lots of other new age mumbo jumbo, I don't think it would be possible to match any better than 10-15%.

Oh, I'm well aware of the batty views they espouse. But nothing of the sort was on the questionnaire. Clearly Hagelin has some view on foreign policy, abortion, gun control, etc. and some of us should agree and some of us should disagree. Instead everyone here--left, right, and other--seems to disagree with him.

--John

The Karma is new age mumbo jumbo