#226175 - 10/07/2004 16:17
The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
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Registered: 16/08/1999
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Loc: NRW, Germany
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Wow! This new build is awesome!
Sorry guys, we're not allowed to release it :-(
Maybe Drakino, Mark Lord or Firefox31 or one of the other guys at "The Meet!" will pop in with some other details later on. A pity you all couldn't make it :-(
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#226176 - 10/07/2004 16:53
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: Derek]
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
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Other than stability (which is always good), any new features?
What I really want when I reinstall my empeg: SOUP VIEWS (database-derived virtual "playlists")
Creating manual playlists in something like Emplode or Jemplode was fine the first time around, but I have so many othe things on my plate that I'd really like to just dump music onto the player in the future without any care as to where I'm dumping it. It's always properly tagged, so simple display/sort options for ARTIST, TITLE, ALBUM, etc. will work well.
So, no one posting a BBS simulcast of the meet's goings-on? Some of poor bastards have to stay away and work.
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#226177 - 10/07/2004 20:59
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: hybrid8]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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Unfortunately we don't have an Internet connection here at the meet. I am posting this using a 19200k dial-up link on my new pocket pc.
Rest assured though, we are all having a great time...
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#226178 - 11/07/2004 09:26
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: Derek]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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So why aren't you allowed to release the new version? No fair for us poor sods living on the other side of the world...
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#226180 - 11/07/2004 21:23
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: hybrid8]
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
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Not quite as good as a simulcast, but here goes:
First we saw [censored] then talked about [censored]. Then we had food. Then more [censored]. Oh, and can't forget [really censored] and the [censored] stuff.
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#226181 - 12/07/2004 06:26
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: Derek]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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Wow! This new build is awesome!
Awesome's the word, I don't know how I ever did without that [censored][censored][censored], I've just loaded it.... I couldn't believe my Empeg could actually sound better!
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#226182 - 12/07/2004 06:31
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[Re: boxer]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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You guys are just being mean now 
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#226184 - 12/07/2004 09:46
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: hybrid8]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Soups? How passe! But I think I saw them in there someplace, as lessor features..
Now the automatic [censorted] using a [censorted] connected to the [censorted] port is truly awesome. I even have a [censored] to bring home for general use .. cannot wait to try it all out.
Now in the Heathrow lounge getting pissed.
cheers
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#226185 - 12/07/2004 16:54
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: drakino]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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Don't forget about Patrick's new, spur of the moment (Censored), which - by the way - he has already completely redesigned and routed a PCB for this morning! First prototype should be ready in about (Censored) from what I hear this evening, depending on whether he can get the (Censored) in sufficient quantities.
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#226186 - 12/07/2004 16:57
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[Re: skibum]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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It's going to be about oooh, at least (Censored) hours or so? if Patrick gets the (Censored) working in the next few days in between doing tuners. Now that will be something! 
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#226187 - 12/07/2004 16:59
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: schofiel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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*pounds head on desk*
OOOO!!! I know i know i know!
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#226188 - 12/07/2004 17:32
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: schofiel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Quote:
(Censored)
Sorry Rob,
already spilled the beans on that one in another thread...
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#226189 - 12/07/2004 18:31
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: mtempsch]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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No, that was the memory expansion board - I'm talking about the (Censored) 
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#226191 - 12/07/2004 19:14
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: schofiel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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You guys are killing us!
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#226192 - 12/07/2004 19:17
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: mlord]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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How friendly is the automatic [censored] wrt the two 'stolen' [censored] used in my first hijack hack? Will it coexist nicely? Or will I have to reprioritise?
EDIT: Is it me or is the automatic censoring on this board flaky now? It keeps censoring out large parts of the sentence, not just an offending word. I guess that'll teach me to not type the word shit as a shortcut for writing [censored]
Edited by genixia (12/07/2004 19:29)
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#226193 - 12/07/2004 20:27
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: genixia]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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All I can say is that you guys better come back and fill in all those censored bits
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#226194 - 12/07/2004 22:53
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[Re: Derek]
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new poster
Registered: 19/12/2002
Posts: 10
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Come on now guys stop being mean.
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#226195 - 13/07/2004 02:08
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
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You guys are killing us!
It is murder...but nice murder. Cool things to come...memories of getting a Top Secret CD last year. Dang, I wish I could have gone, but I've got to say that swirl of mystery around Amersfoort surprises is a budding tradition I can't complain about. The Guys keep showing up with magic. I hope I can get there next year.
In the meantime......Hey, Stu, can you do a reverse vasectomy on my MIC input????
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#226196 - 14/07/2004 08:12
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: skibum]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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No surely this Using non-standard cache size 374 (bonus 16Mb, adjustment 0) is mean. It's the output at startup on 2.01 on a 32mb mk2a.
Using mp3's encoded at 160kbps its now about 17mins between disc spin ups
No, surely my asking whether anyone's yet tried the third release -- the one which never spins up -- is mean.
Peter
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#226197 - 14/07/2004 08:48
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[Re: peter]
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enthusiast
Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 248
Loc: Swindon, UK
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True enough Peter. But both of mine are running 2.01 now and the disc hardly spins up which is I'm happy with.
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#226198 - 14/07/2004 09:07
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: skibum]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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*ahem*
Version 2.01?!?!?!?
I know there has been a lot of hinting, but that was assumed to be a new alpha. This sounds very interesting...
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#226199 - 14/07/2004 09:14
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Remember, the Build Bros gave us THREE new releases on those CDs..
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#226200 - 14/07/2004 09:35
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Hahahahaha... Just checking... 
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#226201 - 14/07/2004 09:49
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Yep, and people have not yet asked anything about #3 Peter: I've been wanting to, but haven't found the time yet. Then again, this release might spark new life into other parts of the BBS
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#226202 - 14/07/2004 09:59
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: peter]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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I hope to update Hijack to fully serve that third player release -- but the backlog here means this won't happen until at least August, unless I get bored here .
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#226203 - 14/07/2004 10:03
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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And for how much longer is this silly game going to continue I ask? Think of all the agony you're inflicting on us mere mortals...
Yeah I know... you guys are lovin' it...
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#226204 - 14/07/2004 10:20
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: pgrzelak]
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enthusiast
Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 248
Loc: Swindon, UK
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all the new releases now detect more memory if its available. Although I found for the 1st time I'm now using reservecache. Although that said, I've configured it to start more as well. Can't remember much else. Beer must have degaussed my memory 
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#226205 - 14/07/2004 10:21
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: Shonky]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Of course, I may know more than I am letting on... That is part of the mystery... The drama... The suspense!
In any case... Other parts of the BBS. Long dormant. Well, we just merged with the Rio Receiver and Rio Central... Hmmm... Coincidence??? Especially with your use of italics in your post... Serve... Hmmm...
Edit: Fixed a spelling error before anyone else caught / commented on it...
Edited by pgrzelak (14/07/2004 10:24)
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#226206 - 14/07/2004 10:29
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: pgrzelak]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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OK then so the empeg functions as a Rio Receiver? I assume that's the version that never spins up the hard drive. I'm fairly sure that's right given what Paul just said.
Can it also function like a Rio Central for Rio Receivers (and of course the forementioned empeg Rio receiver functionality) around the place?
Edited by Shonky (14/07/2004 10:31)
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#226207 - 14/07/2004 10:35
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[Re: Shonky]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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! Good point. I was thinking more about the extra memory and caching, but that is an interesting thought.. Hmmm! That fits...
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#226208 - 14/07/2004 10:36
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: Shonky]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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It cannot function as a Rio Central, that is the work that Mark was referring to wanting to do within HiJack.
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#226209 - 14/07/2004 10:50
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[Re: pgrzelak]
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Registered: 14/11/2000
Posts: 474
Loc: The Hague, the Netherlands
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Ok folks, I won't let you be in suspense any longer.
Here are the release notes:
Pim
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#226210 - 14/07/2004 10:52
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[Re: pim]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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snigger.... 
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#226211 - 14/07/2004 10:54
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[Re: pim]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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ROFL. Somehow reading about the Butler Report on news.bbc and then coming here to see this, seems oddly appropriate...
Peter
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#226212 - 14/07/2004 11:07
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: peter]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Hahahahahaha! Okay, okay!
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#226213 - 14/07/2004 11:13
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[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Perhaps some of the photos may reveal more..
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#226214 - 14/07/2004 11:27
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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Yeah we already figured out the AutoEQ feature. We're tired of guessing what's new since I think we know the majority of the new stuff. Or do we?
We just want to play with it now...
I for one would really like to see if the playlists are saved properly now. That's a real nuisance to me.
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#226215 - 14/07/2004 17:25
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[Re: Shonky]
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journeyman
Registered: 22/05/2004
Posts: 50
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When (if :-( ) we ever get our hands on v3a8 will the new AutoEQ feature be any use in helping me to set up my Pheonix Gold 1/3 octave equaliser?
R.
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#226216 - 14/07/2004 17:28
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[Re: russell]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I doubt it. It should only be useful if you use the empeg's internal EQ, not an external one.
If you want to set up your external equalizer, use an RTA analyzer or go to your local high-end stereo shop and have them use theirs.
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#226217 - 14/07/2004 17:29
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[Re: russell]
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journeyman
Registered: 22/05/2004
Posts: 50
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I would be quite interested to see the logs for the web sever hosting the v3alpha directory! I'm hitting it at least twice a day in the hope that they will take pity on us poor deprived citizens.
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#226218 - 14/07/2004 17:45
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[Re: russell]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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I must admit I don't know jack about setting EQ's etc..., but could you not run the AutoEQ feature, then note the changes, reset it to flat, and duplicate the changes on the external EQ?
Or am I over-simplifying?
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#226219 - 14/07/2004 17:46
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[Re: pim]
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Registered: 10/11/2000
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Dear Mary, I yearn for you tragically. A. T. Tappmann Chaplain U.S. Army.
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#226220 - 14/07/2004 18:45
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[Re: adavidw]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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Dear Mary,
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It's "R. O. Shipman", but nevertheless:
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#226221 - 14/07/2004 18:47
AutoEQ with 2ch system?
[Re: peter]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Mmm..
I'm trying to use the AutoEQ function here, and not much is happening. I've got the mic connected, and all I see is this screen after selecting AutoEQ (screenshot attached).
This is in docked operation, with only two outputs connected (I forget which two). I suppose it must be trying to use the other two outputs, right?
EDIT: never mind. I just found the white/pink noise files on the CD (oops). Loading them now
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226052-empeg_screen.png (213 downloads)
Edited by mlord (14/07/2004 19:02)
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#226222 - 14/07/2004 18:51
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[Re: russell]
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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Twice a day? I've got a */5 in the first column on a cron job.
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#226224 - 14/07/2004 20:41
AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Like, holy sh*t!! My speakers all of a sudden sound WAY better!
Mind you, I'm one of the 99% majority here who normally never touch the equalizer controls..
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#226225 - 14/07/2004 23:58
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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My speakers all of a sudden sound WAY better!
That's the exact response I'm hoping to get after I blow away my horrible EQ settings with V3a8. I just *know* my stock speakers can do better.
Mark, what kind of mic did you use and where did you place it in the car? Did you do any post-adjusting for the mic's input curve (or whatever that's called)?
Oh weekend, please get here soon so I can use my shiney new V3a8 CD!
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#226227 - 15/07/2004 00:02
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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Oh weekend, please get here soon so I can use my shiney new V3a8 CD!
Send it here and I can use it for you...
edit: beaten to it!
Edited by Shonky (15/07/2004 00:02)
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#226228 - 15/07/2004 00:54
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: Shonky]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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edit: beaten to it!
@nelson_muntz(ha ha)
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#226229 - 15/07/2004 05:01
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[Re: adavidw]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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I was assuming that your memory was horribly deceiving you, until I checked...
Yeah, so did I, so I checked my copy as well:
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#226231 - 15/07/2004 13:08
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: robricc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
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It hasn't had the safety inspection yet, because i haven't had time (or help; my brother's going to come help me) to replace the batteries.
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#226232 - 15/07/2004 14:10
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Well, I'll be home on Sunday I think if anyone wants to come over.
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#226234 - 15/07/2004 14:29
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
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It's possible I can hang out tomorrow if anyone wants to do something somewhere. Anyone want to meet at a restaurant or something?
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#226235 - 15/07/2004 17:51
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
[Re: Derek]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/06/1999
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Those of you who used Paypal back in February for certain donations may want to check your e-mail.
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#226236 - 16/07/2004 00:42
Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!!
[Re: Daria]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Oh, I forgot all about that electric car! What a cool hack that is.
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#226238 - 29/07/2004 17:18
Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/06/1999
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Just to finally confirm one of the builds that was on the CD:
Mark, any update on Hijack allowing a switch back and forth?
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