#234847 - 24/09/2004 14:41
I can see my house from here!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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This is one of the coolest bits of software I have ever seen. Yes, it's a little scary, but it's also very neat.
Oh, and take a look at the White House. It's funny how the roof of it and the two buildings next to it have been painted over 
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#234848 - 24/09/2004 16:45
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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old hand
Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
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That's your house? Nice pad. That is a very cool piece of software, my coworkers and I have spent the morning wandering Los Angeles with it.
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#234849 - 24/09/2004 16:53
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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this thing is awesome .. .consder me completely distracted
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#234850 - 24/09/2004 17:43
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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this thing is awesome .. .consder me completely distracted
Yeah, it's dangerous. I've just been looking at everything in my area. I can see major sculptures in the DC area, local shopping areas, old schools, etc. It's also fun looking at some of the places I visited this summer in Europe. Of course, the Thinker only looks like a little dot, but it's cool that I can see it.
It's funny, I would have thought that they would have more of the US mapped out, and it looks like none of Japan is, but I'm sure that's a satellite and/or legal thing.
Anyway, it's fun to send pictures of your friends' houses. Very stalker-like
I think I may fork over the $40 subscription for this. It's too much fun.
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That's your house? Nice pad.
Yup, I've got a great view of the city from the penthouse suite
My house is somewhere NW of there. I'm glad I'm in an area that's so well photographed. It makes it way more fun.
Edited by DiGNAN17 (24/09/2004 17:50)
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#234851 - 24/09/2004 17:44
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 20/11/2001
Posts: 455
Loc: Texas
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That is amazing. I zoomed in on Afghanistan and found the attached.
If you aren't familiar with the Microsoft Terraserver it has 1 meter resolution of the entire US. There are lots of programs to automatically download it including USA Photomaps which will link to a gps.
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#234852 - 24/09/2004 17:50
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: blitz]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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LOL
What resolution are the good areas on this one, do you think?
Edited by DiGNAN17 (24/09/2004 17:51)
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#234853 - 24/09/2004 18:21
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 23/12/2002
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Loc: Winston Salem, NC
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I wish you could just purchase the software and download the relevant maps without having to connect online. I realize that the online version allows huge amounts of storage and prevents pirating, but it's a bit slow to render, even at nearly 3Mbps.
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#234854 - 24/09/2004 18:29
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 20/11/2001
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Loc: Texas
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Looking around the White House area, you can clearly see people. I'm thinking 1 foot. This is a lot clearer than Terraserver. I've attached a shot from the Terraserver database of the Washington monument. It's 1 meter as I said. We use Terraserver from within ArcView which automatically places the image on our GIS system. We use it to spot pipelines.
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#234855 - 24/09/2004 19:47
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
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Pretty neat. I like the interface.
I use some neat software called Memory Map - it has the 1:50,000 Landranger maps for the UK and the aerial mapping, although the resolution isn't nearly as high res as these.
The neat thing about memory map is that it can build a 3D image from the aerial mapping using the elevation data from Landranger maps - screenshot attached.
Gareth
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#234856 - 24/09/2004 19:47
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: blitz]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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Interesting, that's not too bad.
I also wish you could pre-download what you wanted. Plus, the disk cache size they claim is much larger than what I'm able to set. Maybe that's with the trial version, but the dialog claims 2GB, but I can only get 512MB.
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#234857 - 24/09/2004 19:52
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: g_attrill]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
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The neat thing about memory map is that it can build a 3D image from the aerial mapping using the elevation data from Landranger maps - screenshot attached.
Now what we need is a flight simulator program that downloads that information over a broadband link, dynamically in the background as you fly along. so you can have very high resolution images of the area you're flying over, without needing every pixel to be included on the CD-ROMs with the flight simulator.
Or is there already one that does this?
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#234858 - 24/09/2004 22:54
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Holy cow, that's pretty darn cool.
Wow, I can see a car parked in front of my house. Resolution isn't quite high enough to tell if the image data is recent enough for the car to be ours, though...
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#234859 - 24/09/2004 23:05
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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If you look at their website apparently Cambridge MA and Las Vegas have THREE INCH resolution. That's freaking amazing.
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#234860 - 24/09/2004 23:06
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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It's stuff like this and Terraserver that frighten the life out of me. Technology can be used for so much good, but also for so so so much evil.
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#234861 - 24/09/2004 23:08
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 11/02/2000
Posts: 9
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Hmm, I found something different while looking at Afghanistan in KH. This will only work if you have Keyhole installed, but it will be worth it  . Save the Attachment as BorderCrossing.kml and then dbl-click on it.
Glad my second favorite BBS discovered my favorite:
Keyhole Community BBS
(FYI, I've been an empeg owner since Mk1 and involved with KH since day 1)
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#234862 - 24/09/2004 23:26
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: mschrag]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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I love that Area 51 is a preprogrammed location in Keyhole.
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#234863 - 25/09/2004 00:28
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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Isn't the Washington Monument just possibility the worlds biggest sundial?
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#234864 - 25/09/2004 01:25
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: bam]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Nice, it's a UBBThreads board! That's only the third I've ever seen, amongst piles of PHPBB forms. My second UBBThreads forum is gunks.com for the hot-spot rock climbing spot in my area.
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#234865 - 25/09/2004 03:53
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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Holy cow, that's pretty darn cool.
Wow, I can see a car parked in front of my house. Resolution isn't quite high enough to tell if the image data is recent enough for the car to be ours, though...
It's been interesting to note when shots of my area were taken. For example, I'm assuming that the one of my house is about a year and a half old, because I recognize the building stage of a house about a mile away. But then about 5 miles away, there's a group of really large houses that have been finished for over a year now, but on the map it's just a field with the rough roads just finished. But then that's about right between my girlfriend's parent's house and mine, and I can tell from construction there that the data is about 1.5 years old. Strange.
I'm going to have to check out that Las Vegas thing now. I didn't know it was that high quality...
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#234866 - 25/09/2004 04:32
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: g_attrill]
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Registered: 10/11/2000
Posts: 497
Loc: Utah, USA
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The neat thing about memory map is that it can build a 3D image from the aerial mapping using the elevation data from Landranger map
That's what Keyhole does too, IIRC.
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#234867 - 25/09/2004 06:03
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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Wow, I can see a car parked in front of my house.
I can make out the lines on the car park by the flat, but the resolution's not high enough to see if my car is one of the few parked there. I don't think it is, though -- my car's silver, so it ought to be pretty distinctive from space .
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#234868 - 25/09/2004 16:26
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: adavidw]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
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The neat thing about memory map is that it can build a 3D image from the aerial mapping using the elevation data from Landranger map
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That's what Keyhole does too, IIRC.
Yes, it does. It's pretty nifty. We're in the hills, and there's a very distinctive mountain range nearby, so it's fun to change the angle and see if you can make the mountain range look like our view...
The keyhole pro software is very neat... I don't know if the lite version does this, but I got the 7-day trial on the Pro software, and it lets me do line measurements and lot area calculations.
My wife and I had always been a bit unclear on our exact property corners, so we dug out all our county lot plans and such, and I was able to draw a nifty little outline of our lot, and it calctulated the acreage for us automatically and everything quite cool. Even prints out very clearly in color on the inkjet printer. So now in addition to the plot plans in our folder, we've now got satellite photos showing our property and house. Fun.
Of course, it pointed out that the measurements made by the surveyors over the years are quite iffy, and that our lot's acreage is a different amount depending on which surveyor you believe...
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#234869 - 27/09/2004 23:58
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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IT's too bad you can't buy the software... only lease it.
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#234870 - 28/09/2004 02:28
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Interesting. I'm punching in a lot of addresses of people I know, and most of them are places that I thought would be more hi-rez. My address, which is out in the flipping boonies, is higher rez than friends who live in suburbia. Surprising.
Then again, our area has had its share of forest fires. It's possible that the higher rez data exists because someone ordered high rez surveys of our area during or after fires.
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#234871 - 28/09/2004 02:37
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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higher rez
Ugh. Pet peeve alert. Please use "res" or "resolution."
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#234872 - 28/10/2004 16:50
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: Dignan]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Ok, now I'm starting to worry. Google acquires Keyhole. It was bad enough that any old shmuck could type in my phone number or address and get a map to my house, now said schmuck can take a virtual fly over my neighborhood and inspect my actual property. So Google knows the entire web and usenet, has our e-mail, indexs all our photos, and constantly crawls our computers for files; but now it has an overview of the entire planet's surface. Consolidation of this much information in the hands of one, now public and probably more susceptible to negative influence, corporation can not be a good thing. Too much at stake, now I'm worried.
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#234873 - 28/10/2004 18:29
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Don't use Google then if it worries you that much. If it's sensitive data then putting it on the web or usenet is your own fault. Don't use Picasa, their desktop search utility or IE toolbar and you won't have any possible chance of leaking data to Google. I'd trust my stuff with Google a lot more than Microsoft and plenty of people do that already. The MSN portal, Hotmail and Terraserver all do the stuff you're scared of.
Google doesn't index the entire web. It falls short of that by a significant percentage from all estimates. Nobody does it all.
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#234874 - 28/10/2004 19:03
Re: I can see my house from here!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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now public and probably more susceptible to negative influence
The supposed purpose behind their much maligned two-class IPO was to make sure to retain the majority ownership of the company in the hands of the creators.
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#234875 - 28/10/2004 19:43
Re: I can see my house from here!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Anyone say "Skynet" ...?
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#234876 - 28/10/2004 23:55
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: frog51]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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Loc: East Coast, USA
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No, but I can say "Netsky" after reading a recent article about how it and its rival Bagel and friends Sobig.F and Phatbot and the massive zombie botnets they produce. And how my suspicion is true that access to these hijacked, distributed, spam-sending, DoS-ing, credit-card-thieving yet innocent unprotected home user machines is being bought and sold by a new breed of organized crime thugs. I guess there are worse things than the race to control all of humankind's information between the forces of darkness (Microsoft) and light (Google). There are the enemies that roam freely beyond our vision and just out of our reach... and sell us V1.ag_Rä.
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#234877 - 29/10/2004 00:40
Re: I can see my house from here!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
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Google is a force of light? Guess the spin is working well. I'm not saying they're "evil" but then again neither is Microsoft. It's all about money. And guess what? Like me, both companies want it.
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#234878 - 29/10/2004 14:34
Re: I can see my house from here!
[Re: frog51]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
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Anyone say "Skynet" ...?
Hmm, just started picking up a wireless point called SKYNET from my house and it is encrypted. Should I be worried? :-)
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#234879 - 29/10/2004 14:47
Re: I can see my house from here!
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Registered: 02/04/2002
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I really hate Keyhole. For the main reason they charge money to access those images.
For anybody that doesn't want a trial or monthly fees, check out my previous post on NASA's WorldWind. A Free OpenSource Keyhole like piece of software.
Another neat thing about WorldWind is the MODIS mode that shows natural disasters from space! Like fires in the Los Angles area. Another thing i've read on thier forums is they are working on getting 24hour old data in a higher res than the LandSat 7. So, soon we will be able to look at our world in remarkable up-to-date images!
Edited by oliver (29/10/2004 14:53)
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