#252591 - 25/03/2005 08:29
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So, the first showing of the new series of Dr. Who will be on BBC2 on Saturday.
This leaves me with a problem: My Myth box isn't finished yet, I don't have a video recorder, and I'll be in Meribel seeing if there's any snow...
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#252592 - 25/03/2005 09:20
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i am sure someone will record it
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#252593 - 25/03/2005 09:25
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BitTorrent is your friend...
You've got a PM.
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#252594 - 25/03/2005 13:33
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I have a bigger problem. I'm in neither the UK nor Canada (where it'll be shown on the CBC on April 5).
BitTorrent remains our friend.
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#252595 - 26/03/2005 00:45
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Drat - It's not on Directv.
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#252596 - 26/03/2005 14:12
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I was bored on Wednesday so I downloaded it. Let me know if you want it.
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#252597 - 26/03/2005 14:57
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Aparently the version that snuck out doesn't have completed SFX and such. I'm waiting for the real version. It's only a few hours away now anyway.
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#252598 - 26/03/2005 17:26
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pooh-bah
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I've got it on my Sky+ box, if all else fails1!
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#252599 - 26/03/2005 18:40
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Aparently the version that snuck out doesn't have completed SFX and such. I'm waiting for the real version. It's only a few hours away now anyway.
The broadcast version was exactly the same as the leaked version.
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#252600 - 26/03/2005 19:05
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Well, I'm glad I waited, then. 
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#252603 - 28/03/2005 07:32
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Given the amount of detail that went into things like the building explosion which was only on screen for a very short time it seems rather silly to have something like those photos which are actually on screen longer.
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#252604 - 28/03/2005 14:13
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Apart from the Ep 2 teaser and the fact Pres still had the Strictly Dance Fever studio faded up. I'm really pissed off about that, it sums up the deskilling in the broadcast industry. My letter to Ariel is already has already been emailed.
Okay, I didn't understand a word of that.
Still, the special effects left something to be desired. And I could have done without the burp joke.
Altogether, a passable pilot. Too bad they spent so much time acting like the audience didn't know what was going on. I understand that they're gearing it towards kids who haven't seen Doctor Who before, but it was a little tiring to those of us that have. Well, it was to me, anyway.
I'm also a little disappointed that stories are apparently to be wrapped up in a single 45 minute show instead of getting, usually, four 25-minute episodes. That means that each story will be shorter than the shortest Who stories from times past. I don't think that bodes well. (Also, the 45-minute shows harken back to Colin Baker Doctor Who, not really the implication one wants to give.)
Hopefully next week's will be better.
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#252605 - 28/03/2005 14:46
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I don't know which version you ended up getting, but the one transmitted on BBC One on Saturday suffered from a slight technical hitch. It was surrounded on either side by a rather dubious show about who can dance the best. The people performed on the show before Doctor Who which left time for people to vote shortly after which there was another show for the results.
For some reason the audio from the studio that the show was coming from was inadvertantly faded up during the bit with Rose in the basement with dummys. So during a moment of great suspense you hear a camp irish man saying 'So I go over there then?' and a few other choice TV phrases.
A few years ago there would've been people trained sufficiently enough not to let that happen. Nowadays they simply blame the equipment which is now bought off the shelf and is totally unfit for purpose.
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#252606 - 28/03/2005 14:53
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pooh-bah
Registered: 14/01/2002
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Funny... I didn't hear Graham Norton on the BBC Scotland broadcast. Different transmission?
As for the photos, I assumed that as they were so obviously fake that it was meant to be funny. Or that the guy had made them himself. Or something.
Edited by Philip O'Hare (28/03/2005 14:58)
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#252607 - 28/03/2005 15:05
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Time to don the nerd hat....
It depends upon whether BBC Scotland was simply taking the sustaining feed from London or playing Doctor Who locally from the their own Pres. If you didn't hear it then the chances are you were watching a locally originated version. Did you have strictly dance fever on before?
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#252608 - 28/03/2005 15:05
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I got the leaked episode. No Graham Norton for me, fortunately.
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#252609 - 28/03/2005 15:10
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That was the version i originally got. The ep 2 tease was nice but I'm sure you can wait until next week.
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#252610 - 28/03/2005 15:27
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I tend to not watch those anyway. I prefer the story to be presented to me in the way that the producers intend, not how some marketroid wants to entice me.
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#252611 - 28/03/2005 15:40
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pooh-bah
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The horrendous show was on before and after but I didn't watch it. Graham Norton just saps my soul of all life.
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#252612 - 28/03/2005 16:43
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Registered: 14/04/2002
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On uk.media.tv.misc somebody reported that the apparently highly-publicised Audio Description (aka. "narrative") also wasn't switched on until about five minutes in.
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#252613 - 28/03/2005 17:32
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Ahh, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
EDIT: Or possibly elephants.....
Edited by andym (28/03/2005 17:33)
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#252614 - 28/03/2005 17:50
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I'd trust a monkey/elephant to do a better job.
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#252615 - 31/03/2005 16:06
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#252616 - 31/03/2005 16:24
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He's never been in anything for very long. I'm surprised they weren't aware of it. He does a lot of one-off stuff or short run programs. He wasn't in Cracker very long either.
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#252617 - 31/03/2005 17:02
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At this rate, they're going to burn through those 12 regenerations in a hurry. Maybe he'll figure out some way to harness the power of the Eye of Harmony that doesn't involve assassinating the President of the Time Lords.
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#252618 - 31/03/2005 19:00
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At this rate, they're going to burn through those 12 regenerations in a hurry.
I've been wondering about that. It seems it's in the best interest of the show to find actors that will stick around for a while.
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#252619 - 07/04/2005 23:48
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I guess everyone's as underwhelmed as I am.
It's far from bad. It's probably good, but it's just not the second coming (which I swear was not a reference to another TV show when it popped into my head).
The latest episode felt a little more like Dr. Who, but was fairly claustrophobic, I thought, without intending to be. I mean, here we are in outer space watching a massive celestial event and all we really get to see are about three rooms on this space station. At certain instances, it felt an awful lot like a less comedic Red Dwarf.
Also, as I feared, it was a little rushed. Having roughly half the time to tell a story in just doesn't leave much room for the soul of Doctor Who. It was like we were rushing around to different points to make sure to get the plot in, with little time for reflection, like we were trying to get back to where we were when our text adventure game crashed. (Exit. N. Show Paper. E. Z. Z. Take sphere. Exhale. Etc.)
Other random nitpicks: The flash point of wood on Earth today is 330 to 470 degrees Celsius (according to a 1970 USDA Forest Service research paper), yet the Doctor didn't even seem phased by the heat. Maybe he's hardier than I thought. The plot was a little too obvious, I thought, and only marginally compelling -- a very, very, simple parlor detective story. I have the feeling there may have been a little more there in its initial concept, what with the talk of finances, but it just didn't make it to the actual broadcast show. A sputum joke to go with last week's burp joke. A talk to the face joke? Really? I feel like there are more, but I can't think of them now.
I just don't feel like it's going to get much better.
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#252620 - 08/04/2005 05:59
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It's probably good, but it's just not the second coming (which I swear was not a reference to another TV show when it popped into my head).
Christopher Ecclestone was in that too....
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#252621 - 08/04/2005 10:26
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like we were trying to get back to where we were when our text adventure game crashed. (Exit. N. Show Paper. E. Z. Z. Take sphere. Exhale. Etc.)
Ah the memories . . .
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#252622 - 08/04/2005 16:51
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Not only was Chris Eccleston in it, it was written by the same guy who's doing the new Doctor Who, Russell T. Davies.
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#252623 - 08/04/2005 17:02
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Yup, and it was filmed at my old faculty building at Uni, all the bits in the Police station that is.
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#252624 - 25/05/2005 23:24
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It only occoured to me today that many of regulars here are actually located somewhere that the New Dr. Who is broadcast. I don't know about all of you, but I have been a fan since I was a kid and I love the new series. My kids (5 and 7) just can't wait for the next episode to come out each week. I think Christopher makes a great doctor and I will be sad to see his short run end. The only thing I can say negative about the new series is that it would have been nice if they would have stuck to the old 4 to 6 part format. I think it really left you wanting more and brought you back next week. With great things like the TiVo, you can get 'em all and never miss an episode. I know it will be top of my TiVo wish list when they decide to broadcast it here in the states. I'll also be first in line to buy the DVD box set when they release a Region 1 version.
So, what do you all think about the show now that they are about 1/2 way through the first season, and in general how is it being received over there in it's target audience / region?
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#252625 - 26/05/2005 02:05
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So, what do you all think about the show now that they are about 1/2 way through the first season, and in general how is it being received over there in it's target audience / region?
I know I'm not in its target region, but I think it's brilliant, best Doctor ever.
Hopefully I can talk about stuff containing spoiler material here?
I thought the Dalek episode was brilliant, watching the normally carefree Doctor completely snap when he first saw the Dalek was just a fantastic bit of acting, totally emmy-worthy, or whatever the British equivalent of that is.
He and Rose totally click, they've got a great chemistry.
The bit where Rose asks him who he is, and he gives her the speech about how he can feel the Earth moving beneath his feet at a thousand miles an hour... Wonderful and chilling and neat.
Wonderful one-liners throughout the series. My favorite so far is: "Lots of planets have a North." Especially how that one gets used as an occasional callback joke.
I'm practicing saying "Fantastic" the way he says it. Back in the old days, we used to count the number of "EEEeeexcellent"s that the bad guys said in Dr. Who episodes. Now I'm going to count the number of "Fantastic"s the Doctor says.
But it totally and utterly sucks in one important way:
WE DON'T GET IT OVER HERE YET, meaning I have to resort to downloading it. Sigh.
Now, mind you, that means I get a decent widescreen 16:9 presentation, in relatively high resolution, so it looks really good on my HDTV. I'm actually seeing it in a lot better quality than I would if it were coming over BBC America.
But still. I'd rather not have to resort to downloading in order to watch the thing. Sigh.
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#252626 - 26/05/2005 16:28
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No problem about spoilers. I'm all caught up as well.
I agree about the performance when the Doctor first sees the Dalek: Fantastic!
I had noticed the callback joke of the "lots of planets have a north". Just overall good stuff.
The Doctor and Rose really do have a chemistry. I wonder how that will go with the next Doctor. Also, they have fooled me a couple of times with the Boyfriend and the Smart Kid from the Dalek episode where I thought we were going to have a second sidekick.
I've caught myself dorpping a few copies "fantastic" into my daily conversation as well. When my wife is around she just rolls her eyes. She tolerates (and even quietly enjoys) my Dr. Who fandom (I've got about 20gigs of empeg dedicated to Dr. Who audio dramas and well over 100 videos from the original series), but she just can't resis giving me a hard time when some of it comes out in public. My fav is my "Hard Rock Cafe Gallifrey" t-shirt. One good thing is that I get a new video or two for each Birthday/Christmas, etc.
Not that I know anything about this "downloading" you speak of... but WOW the quality of those things (that I saw on some machine in an internet-cafe one day while passing by) IS really great. Whoever is "ripping" those things down must be directly recording the digital stream. I agree that the quality is better than what we would get over a local broadcast.
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#252627 - 26/05/2005 16:57
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Not that I know anything about this "downloading" you speak of... but WOW the quality of those things (that I saw on some machine in an internet-cafe one day while passing by) IS really great. Whoever is "ripping" those things down must be directly recording the digital stream.
BBC1 (the channel it is broadcast on in the UK) is in clear on both digital satellite and digital terrestrial. So it is easy to capture the original mpeg stream straight off air with a PCI DVB-S or DVB-T card.
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#252628 - 18/06/2005 22:52
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Digging up an old thread here, and some possible spoilers...
Well, so much for Christopher Eccleston departing being a surprise, the seemed to have moved onto David Tennant quite smoothly, almost like they knew he was leaving before they finished filming.
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#252629 - 07/04/2006 17:45
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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I'm sure all the Brits who are interested already know, but since the first season only just started airing in the US like a month ago, the new season (series ... whatever) of Doctor Who apparently starts April 15, 2006.
Get those BitTorrent clients warmed up....
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