#264168 - 01/09/2005 12:44
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Well, for the first time my eMpeg has decided to give me problems. It decided to just say No Hard Disk found. I played it fine this morning, I synced a few CDs worth and then unplugged it. After half an hour I wanted to upload some more tunes. Then it just sat there and died. I heard the disk spin as normal...
Problem is I am driving to Atlanta (DragonCon) tomorrow morning so I do not have time to diagnose or fix it...
Just posting so people can pity me and help me when I return once I get the log, etc.
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#264169 - 01/09/2005 13:07
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#264170 - 01/09/2005 19:44
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Hey, have fun at DragonCon, I hear it's great.
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#264171 - 07/09/2005 19:29
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Thanks, guys. I read the FAQ and I had fun at DragonCon (who can not have fun when you get hugged by Tricia Helfer!). I have taken it apart and I do not really see anything obvious. The cable is glued on. The cable may need to be crimped better, though. I can't tell if any solder joints are broken or not...If there are, I am screwed unless someone can repair it for me... Here is the result of me connecting it to HyperTerminal: Quote:
empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!
e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
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Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315
(release)) #12 Tue Apr 1 18:51:41 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000611)
Command line: mem=12m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea Universit
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005780).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
Probing primary interface...
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:02:6
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RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Cannot open root device 03:05
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
What does it mean? I don't have the patience right now to figure it out so any help is appreciated...
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#264172 - 07/09/2005 19:56
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Greetings! Quote:
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
Probing primary interface...
empeg-flash driver initialized
That little tidbit shows that the hard drive or drives have not been found at all. So, it could be the cable, it could be the cable plugged into the main board (did you give it a test to feel if it had worked its way loose?), the cable could have failed or the header could have failed. So my recommendation is to try a quick troubleshoot: verify that the cable is firmly plugged into the mainboard. If that is okay, let us know what color is on the ribbon cable. A reddish / pink ribbon cable (on the first wire) is a sign that it might be from the bad batch. If so, take a digital photo of the connector on the drive and post it.
Are you nearby any other members that can look at it?
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#264173 - 07/09/2005 20:40
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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So, it could be the cable, it could be the cable plugged into the main board (did you give it a test to feel if it had worked its way loose?), the cable could have failed or the header could have failed.
I checked all the connections and they look solid. I did not notice anything loose and I pressed down a little to make sure. Same goes for the connection to the drive.Quote:
So my recommendation is to try a quick troubleshoot: verify that the cable is firmly plugged into the mainboard. If that is okay, let us know what color is on the ribbon cable. A reddish / pink ribbon cable (on the first wire) is a sign that it might be from the bad batch.
It has a black stripe on the cable.Quote:
Are you nearby any other members that can look at it?
I do not think so. Anyone live in Charleston, SC?
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#264174 - 07/09/2005 21:14
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Jon Bjorgen is in Hartsville, but that's hardly next door, and he's off to New Orleans right now anyway.
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#264175 - 08/09/2005 08:04
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Does the drive spin up? Maybe the drive itself is bad. You mentioned that it still had the hot glue on the connector. That means it was an original 30GB drive, so it is a few years old.
Do you have a spare player that you can test with? Or a spare laptop drive that you do not care too much about?
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#264176 - 08/09/2005 09:34
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Quote:
Does the drive spin up? Maybe the drive itself is bad.
I believe it does as I do hear a noise when I plug it in. I will double check tonight, though, by listening closer.Quote:
You mentioned that it still had the hot glue on the connector. That means it was an original 30GB drive, so it is a few years old.
It is an 18GB drive.
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Do you have a spare player that you can test with?
No. Quote:
Or a spare laptop drive that you do not care too much about?
No but I have half a mind to buy a large one on the chance it is the drive and just upgrade to that.
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#264177 - 08/09/2005 09:59
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18GB. Even older. I thought I read that it was a 30... No matter. It is still an older drive and might have failed.
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#264178 - 08/09/2005 11:56
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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18GB. Even older. I thought I read that it was a 30... No matter. It is still an older drive and might have failed.
I guess I can try hooking it to a PC and see what happens...
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#264179 - 08/09/2005 11:56
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The important thing is what flavour - it was mainly Fujitsu 18/20s and 30Gs ( especially the 30s) that failed. Let us know which make it is, and what noise it makes on power up. Listen for The Click Of Death.
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#264180 - 09/09/2005 05:41
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The important thing is what flavour - it was mainly Fujitsu 18/20s and 30Gs ( especially the 30s) that failed. Let us know which make it is, and what noise it makes on power up. Listen for The Click Of Death.
It is an IBM Travelstar. The noise it makes is a couple of clicks, a little scratching, a couple of clicks, a little scratching and then nothing.
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#264181 - 09/09/2005 08:04
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That does not sound that good. I hope you have a backup of your music on your local system. It might be time to replace / upgrade the drive.
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#264182 - 09/09/2005 08:49
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Quote:
That does not sound that good. I hope you have a backup of your music on your local system. It might be time to replace / upgrade the drive.
I have all my MP3s backed up on CDs/DVDs so I have no qualms about replacing the drive if needed...Now, I guess I need to get a new drive and hope that is the end of my problems... Any suggestions for a brand/model?
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#264183 - 09/09/2005 09:12
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For the most part, any make or model laptop hard drive will do. Rotation speed is not that important in this application, so older (cheaper) drives are not an issue. Please check out the Drive Upgrade FAQ for step by step on how to do this.
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#264184 - 13/09/2005 07:34
Re: No Hard Disk Found
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Sorry, it''s dead. It sounds like the platter motor is failing to spin up.
Since you have nothing more to lose at this point, you can try one trick I have used successfully a couple of times on Travelstars: hold the empeg horizontally in your left hand, and using your right hand, plug in the AC adaptor at the back. Immediately you hear the drive click, thump the SIDE of the player horizontally with the flat of your right hand once, maybe twice, HARD. If you do it at the right time, it may spin up giving you an opportunity to get your music off it. Good luck.
You will in any case be needing a new drive, unforch.
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#264185 - 13/09/2005 09:43
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Quote:
thump the SIDE of the player horizontally with the flat of your right hand once, maybe twice, HARD. If you do it at the right time, it may spin up giving you an opportunity to get your music off it. Good luck.
Are you nuts?  I'll pass on that method, thanks, as all my music is backed up already.Quote:
You will in any case be needing a new drive, unforch.
Yeah... As an update, I ordered 1 drive. I'll get it this weekend so I'll be replacing it and hoping it works fine. During the week, I'll be removing the old drive since the cable was glued on.
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#264186 - 17/09/2005 07:44
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It lives Lives LIVES!!!!
The drive arrived yesterday and I immediately put it in and plugged it in for the Disk Builder upgrade. At first I thought it was not working because the drive made no noise or anything (my old drive always made some little noise like most drives do when spinning up or reading/writing). The upgrade started going and I must say it took forever. Finally it finished and I turned Hyperterminal on and saw it format the drive and started doing its stress test. I let it go for 3 hours.
Now, I am off to the hardware store to get some of those washers and make sure the drive screws are long enough with the washer on them.
I am sort of wishing I bought two drives now...
Thanks everyone. For awhile there I thought it was the end of my empeg and dreaded going back to CD...
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#264187 - 17/09/2005 11:21
Maybe I spoke too soon
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I am trying to synch and emplode just dies on me. So, I am trying jEmplode. It says There isn't a file with FID 2 on this device. and it says it twice. I click Ok I then do a synch with nothing and it says: Quote:
Unable to synchronize with the current device. caused by:
Failed to synchronize with device. caused by:
org.jempeg.protocol.ProtocolException: FSCK found an serious problem (check logs for explanation).
at org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.EmpegProtocolClient.fsck(EmpegProtocolClient.java:958)
at org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.EmpegProtocolClient.checkMedia(EmpegProtocolClient.java:968)
at org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.EmpegSynchronizeClient.beforeSynchronize(EmpegSynchronizeClient.java:314)
at org.jempeg.protocol.AbstractSynchronizeClient.synchronize(AbstractSynchronizeClient.java:220)
at org.jempeg.manager.SynchronizeUI.synchronize(SynchronizeUI.java:109)
at org.jempeg.manager.SynchronizeUI$1.run(SynchronizeUI.java:65)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
So I boot HT and record what empeg is saying:
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empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!
e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #12 Tue Apr 1 18:51:41 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000611)
Command line: mem=12m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005f80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, 95396MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:02:63
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initVFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4054d000
Should I run the Drive Builder upgrade again?
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#264188 - 17/09/2005 11:53
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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I ran the disk builder again since i had nothing to lose and captured this when it finished: Quote:
it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!
e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg49 ([email protected]) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #130 Mon Oct 22 18:52:07 BST 2001
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000611)
Command line: mem=12m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004000).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, 95396MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:02:63
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initVFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4,
or too many mounted file systems
warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
umount: /drive0: not mounted
Making first drive...
mke2fs 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/hda4 is mounted.
no room for private writable mapping
error: -12
/dev/hda4: Memory allocation failed while setting up superblock
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning down.
I can't remember if it gave the same message last night or not...but now it keeps going through the hdstress so I am not sure if all is well or not... 
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#264189 - 17/09/2005 12:36
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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It will continue to do the stress test forever. It sounds like maybe the builder didn't take the first time. I bet it's fine now. Try loading a normal player image and see what happens.
Also, there's a complete drive upgrade guide that covers stuff like this.
Edit: Oops. Yeah. Paul (below) is correct.
Edited by wfaulk (17/09/2005 12:44)
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#264190 - 17/09/2005 12:37
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Registered: 15/08/2000
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Mmmmm... This is a Mark2, isn't it. 12MB RAM... The implications of...
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Making first drive...
mke2fs 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/hda4 is mounted.
no room for private writable mapping
error: -12
/dev/hda4: Memory allocation failed while setting up superblock
...is that you do not have enough memory to be able to build the hard drive. This is an interesting issue - basically we have to override the builder script, enable swap and then build the drive manually. Is it possible to CTRL-C out of any of the build steps to get to a shell prompt?
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#264191 - 17/09/2005 12:42
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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If the disk hasn't been built yet, what are you going to enable swap on?
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#264192 - 17/09/2005 12:45
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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That's the fun bit. The disk has been partially built. The root, scratch and swap partition are all there and should be okay. It is the music partition that is the issue - the filesystem build failed because there was not enough RAM to create it. It is a Mark2 12MB empeg trying to build a filesystem on a 100GB drive...
Is this drive currently bootable / did you load the player software? What kind of problems were you seeing that made you reflash. If you see: a bootable player that you cannot sync to or play any music from, you likely have a functioning root partition and swap. You might be able to boot into the standard kernel, break into shell, enable swap and create the music filesystem manually.
Steps to do this: (capture the session, please)
1) Make sure the 2.0 developer kernel is loaded.
2) Boot the empeg with hyperterm.
3) q to quit the player application and get to shell.
4) swapon /swapfile
5) Follow these steps for formatting and creating directories on the music partition. [Note: hdc4 assumes that the target is the second drive. For the primary drive, use hda4.]
6) rom; ro; exit
The player application will reload. I would recommend powering off and reflashing the 2.0 developer kernel again, just out of paranoia (should not be needed). Reboot the player and examine the boot log.
Edits: Lots of detail and supporting data added and some corrections entered.
Edited by pgrzelak (17/09/2005 13:00)
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#264193 - 17/09/2005 18:02
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Trying it now...Do I have to do the Initialising the swap partition or the Initialising the dynamic data partition sections?
I retried the disk builder upgrade because I could not sync but the empeg booted fine and had the visuals and all. So, I assumed it was installed but something was missing.
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#264194 - 17/09/2005 18:59
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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You should just need to do the music partition section.
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#264195 - 17/09/2005 21:55
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Ok...this is everything... First is the manual making of the music partition. I improvised when it said the mount was busy/already mounted as /drive0 and did as it showed on that page...Hopefully that was correct...if not I will re do it again....
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empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!
e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000611)
Command line: mem=12m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004600).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, 95396MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:02:63
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Com Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4054d000
q
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Player exited normally: 0
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# swapon /swapfile
Adding Swap: 16028k swap-space (priority -1)
empeg:/empeg/bin# mke2fs -m 0 -s 1 -i 131072 /dev/hda4
mke2fs 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/hda4 is mounted.
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
762880 inodes, 24394702 blocks
0 blocks (0.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
745 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
1024 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208,
4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 20480000, 23887872
Writing inode tables: 0/745 ... 744/745done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
empeg:/empeg/bin# rw ; rwm
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
empeg:/empeg/bin# mount -n /dev/hda4 /mnt
mount: /dev/hda4 already mounted or /mnt busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda4 is mounted on /drive0
empeg:/embeg/bin# rw ; rwm
empeg:/empeg/bin# mkdir /drive0/fids
empeg:/empeg/bin# mkdir /drive0/var
empeg:/empeg/bin# rom ; ro
empeg:/empeg/bin# exit
logout
Shell exit
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4054d000
This is after I reflashed with the developer image:
Quote:
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000611)
Command line: mem=12m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004680).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: TOSHIBA MK1031GAS, 95396MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:02:63
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To ComðStarting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4054d000
It appears to have errors mounting the disk still...Error 19...
edited for width -wfaulk
Edited by wfaulk (19/09/2005 12:14)
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#264196 - 17/09/2005 22:10
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But i searched for error 19 and that looks normal...starting emplode...come on... YES it did not crash...synching a song....
Seems to be working...I'll have to give it a go in the car in a bit....
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#264197 - 17/09/2005 23:02
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Registered: 15/08/2000
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Brutal formatting on the post, though...
Congratulations, you just fixed your player. The error you
saw was normal use. You should be all set at this point.
What you did was use what portion of the build worked (root,
swap and scratch) to get into the player and build the music
filesystem by hand. The error you saw about the filesystem
already mounted was because (I forgot) the rwm would have
remounted /drive0 read/write. This would have worked since
the filesystem was then built at the time.
You should be fully functional at this point. You may just
want to do an fsck set when you get time, just to clear the
marker on the root partition.
Edit: Tony - a recommendation for the disk upgrade FAQ. If
people cannot build their new drives due to memory limits,
this procedure can be used to finish the build job. This
worked on a Mark2 with a 100GB drive - it might work with a
Mark1 as well. As drives get bigger, this will be more
common.
Edited by pgrzelak (17/09/2005 23:24)
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#264198 - 18/09/2005 22:27
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Quote:
Tony - a recommendation for the disk upgrade FAQ. If
people cannot build their new drives due to memory limits,
this procedure can be used to finish the build job.
I'm trying to take a stand and, each time this comes up,
whine and moan and complain and:
a. Beg someone at empeg to make a proper builder image
that works with big drives...
b. Beg someone to somehow hack the existing builder image to
make it work, or...
c. Beg Mark Lord to build large-disk diskbuilding into Hijack
or somehow help us by coming up with another solution.
We really need something. Really really.
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#264199 - 19/09/2005 12:12
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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Well, unlike the player image, there's no copyrighted data that would need to be included in a builder image, so this should be doable. Let's see. You'd need a kernel that had its root image on a ramdisk, the ramdisk itself containing a simple binary to do the following: create the partitions, turn on the swap partition, create the music filesystem, and burn in the filesystem, if desired. (I don't think we have to create the root filesystem, as the upgrade does that for us.) So the total things you'd need are the kernel, that init binary (or sh and a script, possibly), fdisk, swapon, mkfs, and dd and rm (or something to burn in with). Not a piece of even remotely copyrighted software there.
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#264200 - 19/09/2005 21:40
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You should be fully functional at this point. You may just
want to do an fsck set when you get time, just to clear the
marker on the root partition.
Yes, for the first time in two weeks I did not have to sing to myself for my 35 minute commute! Thanks for everything!!!!
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#264201 - 20/09/2005 10:03
Re: Maybe I spoke too soon
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It looks to me like you have built a second drive, bigger than 40G, using the original builder image, and then cabled it in as slave.
When you add content to your player, the player distributes it across the disks it has available, and then records the meta data (tags, name, location etc) in the static database.
If you have simply shoved a new disk in in place of a dead second drive, it is now complaining that it can't find the tracks it expected to be there (from the old one).
You need to build this disk by hand using the instructions on Roger's website (www.differentpla.net) instead of using the builder. This will take a bit of command line magic using an installed developer image. You will then have to re-build the track database, which you can find in the FAQ.
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#264202 - 20/09/2005 10:06
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a) empeg don't exist no more.
b) this would take motivation, something missing from the board these days.
c) Mark?
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