#271192 - 30/11/2005 19:59
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The Unofficial Empeg Wiki is now up. All moderators here will be upgraded to sysop if they create an account.Hopefully we can get the whole FAQ over there and kept up to date. 
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#271193 - 30/11/2005 20:17
Re: Empeg Wiki
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#271194 - 30/11/2005 21:05
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
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Do we really want the whole FAQ moved over there? I think thats a question for Tony to answer, since it's his baby.
I think the Wiki would do well for the technical side of things, and also hijack documentation. The FAQ as it is works decently.
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#271195 - 30/11/2005 21:33
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: drakino]
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Do we really want the whole FAQ moved over there? I think thats a question for Tony to answer, since it's his baby.
I just figured it'd probably stay more current if it was in a place more people could contribute to. Maybe I'm wrong.
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#271196 - 30/11/2005 23:05
Re: Empeg Wiki
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I'm user #12...Op Me Please. Ooopss...I'm not a sysop here! Bummer!
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#271197 - 30/11/2005 23:28
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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I think this is a great idea, but a few questions:
What's the backup situation like on empegwiki.org? Is that a name you registered and own and are paying hosting for? Just want to make sure before devoting some time towards this. Colocated, I'm guessing? Bandwidth caps or any other surprises? Tom and empegbbs.com have been top notch, he has definately been on top of things the whole time I've been around.
If empegwiki.org gets populated with all the content from riocar.org and stays up to date with volunteer contributors, I don't see a big need for the current riocar.org site, and it could be converted over to the wiki software easily, I'd guess. Why not just run the wiki software on the riocar.org site instead? Or, if Tom doesn't want to bother maintaining both the BBS and the riocar.org site, move the FAQ (if this is what Tony wishes) and all content off of riocar.org and just have two places - empegbbs.com and empegwiki.org. I would only support this though if the site is more or less permanant and backed up frequently.
Let's see what Tony has to say about this, also.
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#271198 - 01/12/2005 00:01
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: cushman]
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What's the backup situation like on empegwiki.org?
It is backed up every night to a remote server.
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Is that a name you registered and own and are paying hosting for?
Yes, yes, and yes.
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Colocated, I'm guessing? Bandwidth caps or any other surprises?
Yes. Traffic is 1.5TB a month, and $.49/GB over that.
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#271199 - 01/12/2005 10:57
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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What's the backup situation like on empegwiki.org?
It is backed up every night to a remote server.
ricin - thanks for setting this wiki up. Could you make the database dump file available so that, say, Drakino, can set up a nightly fetch?
If we wanted to go a stage further, it would be nice to have dupli.empegwiki.org point to 66.219.41.221 (the IP for empegbbs) and set up a read-only mirror of the wiki.
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#271200 - 01/12/2005 11:09
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: cushman]
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If empegwiki.org gets populated with all the content from riocar.org and stays up to date with volunteer contributors, I don't see a big need for the current riocar.org site, and it could be converted over to the wiki software easily, I'd guess. Why not just run the wiki software on the riocar.org site instead?
riocar.org has many different types of content on it including a news feature and a photo gallery. I actually think that installing a FAQ engine (such as phpFAQ) would be a better way to go than either leaving the FAQ as it is or moving it to a wiki.
Wikis are great for collecting information and creating guides - less so for many of the other things that are currently on riocar.org.
However, I agree with the sentiments about multiple domains. Perhaps longer-term we can look to create faqs.riocar.org, wiki.riocar.org and forum.riocar.org. It would be nice to have a single theme across the three sites too - but this all depends on whether people feel like putting the time in to do this.
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#271201 - 01/12/2005 13:56
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
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It should be remakably trivial for Tom to set up those CNAMEs in the riocar.org zone.
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#271202 - 01/12/2005 20:08
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: drakino]
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carpal tunnel
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Do we really want the whole FAQ moved over there? I think thats a question for Tony to answer, since it's his baby.
Sorry...being overly zealous, I moved a few FAQ items over. If Tony doesn't want them there, I'll happily remove them again.
Note: I didn't make any corrections, but I noticed several things that could be corrected...it may not be a bad idea to have it be more open.
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#271203 - 01/12/2005 20:46
Re: Empeg Wiki
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I'd say at least move over the Hijack stuff.
That's the section that is in most need of an update.
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#271204 - 01/12/2005 21:00
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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You're welcome to move whatever you want over there, provided:
1. I am never asked to do any work as a result. This includes having to participate in the move, or fix any links anywhere on any web site hosted in any part of this solar system.
2. Your work does not break or usurp any existing functionality or links of this BBS, the FAQ, or Riocar.org.
3. Your work does not ruin the formatting, color coding, font emphasis, layout, or illustrations.
4. If you break anything, you get the hairy eyeball from me.
Otherwise, go for it. Carefully.
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#271205 - 01/12/2005 21:07
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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Hmm, yeah. There are an awful lot of existing links to the FAQ where it stands now.
Maybe just move the Hijack part. It's the only thing that changes all that frequently anyway.
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#271206 - 01/12/2005 22:08
Re: Empeg Wiki
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pooh-bah
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Existing links alone are reason enough to leave FAQ where it is. Besides, I am quite attached to its long evolving, lovingly developed present form; I can only imagine how much Tony is.
I have two suggestions:
- Let's experiment with documenting HiJack more fully, since it is by its very essence a moving target
- Perhaprs we could try to construct a comprehensive user manual (as opposed to FAQ). since it is more or less just a matter or organization and presentation rather than content, we could use lots of content from the FAQ (with Tony's permission, of course)
Edited by tonyc (01/12/2005 22:30)
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#271207 - 02/12/2005 00:07
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: cushman]
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pooh-bah
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empegwiki would be ideal for documenting all existing empeg software (and hardware). I should have done this when I said I would, but it's daunting for one person. The "3rd Party Software List" is proof of how distributed editing can make it happen.
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#271208 - 02/12/2005 19:38
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: drakino]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
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I think the Wiki would do well for the technical side of things, and also hijack documentation. ...
Is there still an issue with hosting the Hijack stuff at Sourceforge? Whatever became of that?
On that note- should the new wiki host the Hijack software or just documentation?
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#271209 - 02/12/2005 20:51
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
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Okay, I've copied-and-pasted the Hijack FAQ from riocar.org to the Wiki article Hijack Documentation. I've done a little cleaning up and Wikifying, but it needs a lot more, not to mention some serious updating. Have at it, folks.
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#271210 - 02/12/2005 23:35
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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Please see the logos here, and then vote below.
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10 (56%)
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6 (33%)
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1 (6%)
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1 (6%)
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#271211 - 03/12/2005 02:20
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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veteran
Registered: 21/01/2002
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Sorry to mess up the voting, I uploaded a new logo after you'd posted this poll. All original, baby.
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#271212 - 03/12/2005 18:02
Re: Empeg Wiki
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pooh-bah
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I couldn't resist adding a shamelessly copied idea to the logo pool.
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#271213 - 03/12/2005 19:46
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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I uploaded one, too. Someone with better skills than I have should clean it up, but I think it gets the idea across.
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#271215 - 03/12/2005 20:13
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
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For some reason I can't vote... did it expire?
We should point Skunknumber1 to this thread.
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#271216 - 03/12/2005 20:17
Re: Empeg Wiki
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I set it to expire today because I just wanted an idea of what people like, and I knew that more entries would end up coming in as soon as I put the poll up.  We'll do another one when the submissions die down a little.
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#271217 - 03/12/2005 23:16
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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veteran
Registered: 21/01/2002
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Can you upload a file to the wiki that is not an image?
Tried putting this up, but didn't make it. Anyway, this is a Flash format rendering of the Empeg facia and the Empeg logo that I used to make my 2nd entry. This could also be useful to others who want to use the "empeg" image.
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271385-empeg.fla (645 downloads)
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#271218 - 04/12/2005 01:20
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
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Wow, thanks for moving it over Bitt. And again, I apologize to everyone for letting it get so stale... I am no FAQ master... that is for sure! Glad some life will be breathed into it again!
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#271219 - 04/12/2005 21:20
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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I've added a new logo a friend of mine did.
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#271220 - 05/12/2005 14:18
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: cushman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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I don't know if you can upload a Flash or not, but it doesn't do anything for me. It just continually says "Movie not loaded" in the Flash Player context menu.
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#271221 - 05/12/2005 14:23
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Registered: 21/01/2002
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Right, it's not a movie, just a rendering in Flash. You'd have to have a Flash editor (not player) to edit and use the file. I use Flash to draw quick renderings because it has great drawing tools that I like and are easy to use.
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#271222 - 05/12/2005 14:42
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: cushman]
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I can save each layer out to Photoshop or PNG if anyone cares.
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#271223 - 05/12/2005 16:52
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[Re: cushman]
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carpal tunnel
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works for me.
Interestingly enough, I couldn't upload the swf file. Got this error message:
".swf" is not a recommended image file format.
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#271224 - 05/12/2005 17:42
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I've added swf now. Any other extensions while I'm at it?
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#271225 - 05/12/2005 18:02
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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veteran
Registered: 21/01/2002
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Hrm.. all source code types? .c .pl .java .py .sh .bat
Images you've got.
Movies? .avi .mpg .mpeg .mov
Zip would be the only other one I can think of. .zip .tar .gz .bz2
If the file extension is not listed here you can always zip it. Zip it good.
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#271226 - 05/12/2005 19:18
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
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Definitely .mpg, there are several movies in the FAQ and elsewhere that could be copied over.
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#271227 - 05/12/2005 19:29
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#271228 - 06/12/2005 16:57
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[Re: ricin]
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Is it possible to fix the rss/atom feeds for the special pages? I would like to subscribe to the New Pages feed, but the rss and atom links are borked. I think it is because there are a few newlines before the <? xml ?> tag is output.
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#271229 - 15/12/2005 15:42
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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Is it time to:
1. Vote on a logo and put it in place on the wiki
2. Add a link to the top of the BBS for the EmpegWiki site (maybe replace jEmplode and emphatic and instead link those from the main page of the Wiki)
3. Add a post to the riocar.org site to the EmpegWiki site
4. Un-sticky the parts thread and the software thread from the General forum, and sticky an announcment for the Wiki instead (reducing the sticky posts from 3 to 2)
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#271230 - 15/12/2005 19:56
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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Time for the final vote on a logo.
Logo page
Edited by ricin (16/12/2005 03:05)
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#271231 - 15/12/2005 20:35
Re: Empeg Wiki
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carpal tunnel
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Logo PageThanks for splitting my vote, btw.
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#271232 - 15/12/2005 22:58
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RSS feeds should be working now, BTW.
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#271233 - 16/12/2005 01:49
Re: Empeg Wiki
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Wow, RayOK's is cute.... like iPods. Hm, tough choice.
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#271234 - 16/12/2005 02:52
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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RSS feeds should be working now, BTW.
Rockin'. Killer feature.
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#271235 - 19/12/2005 02:26
Re: Empeg Wiki
[Re: ricin]
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I've just uploaded a new logo, wikipedia-like but nice I think. let me know what you think.
thanks
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#271236 - 19/12/2005 02:37
Re: Empeg Wiki
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Very cool logos! I like the way the small over the background looks.
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