#273839 - 09/01/2006 15:37
Video card resolutions
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Well, my Christmas present to myself this year should be arriving in the next week, and I need to be prepared.
Can anyone point me to the cheapest card that can display 2560x1600? I can't find any on Newegg. I also don't know if I can just use my current card (ATI 9700 AIW), and use something like Powerstrip if I need it.
Any ideas?
ps-oh and no, I did not pay retail 
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#273841 - 09/01/2006 16:34
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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DVI resolutions above 1920x1200 require dual link DVI. (There are exceptions to this depending on the refresh rate, but thus far the two consumer monitors out there need dual link). This is still a single DVI connector, however it feeds two separate DVI signals over the cable. Searching for Dual Link DVI on NewEgg comes back with 9 cards. The key part is "Single and dual link external TMDS transmitter support for high resolution and/or multi-monitor DVI configurations"
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#273842 - 09/01/2006 17:36
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: drakino]
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Thanks, Tom. Looks like I'm not going to be able to avoide the money issue, since it doesn't seem like I'm going to find an AGP card. $170 wouldn't have been too bad, but I don't have PCI-E in my machine. That's okay, I'll stick with a lower resolution. 800 pixels of vertical resolution is going to look huge, but it shouldn't be too bad I'm hoping to upgrade soon anyway.
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#273843 - 09/01/2006 17:52
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: drakino]
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Would this work? It seems aimed to work with the 30" Cinema Display, which I believe has the same requirements.
*edit*
Interesting, Newegg's listing doesn't list that high a maximum resolution.
Edited by Dignan (09/01/2006 17:55)
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#273844 - 09/01/2006 17:55
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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Actually yes, that card would work. The 30 inch Apple and Dell displays are pretty much identical, except Dell is using slightly newer LCD panels with better specs.
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#273845 - 09/01/2006 17:55
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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It probably won't work outside a Mac.
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#273846 - 09/01/2006 17:56
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: wfaulk]
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It probably won't work outside a Mac.
Found this:
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The Radeon 9600 Pro is called the "PC and Mac Edition" because it has both PC and Mac ROM code. It's the first graphics card that's compatible with both. Now mid-range Windows PC users can drive the Dual-Link 30" Cinema LCD display without buying an expensive workstation card like the nVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL.
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#273847 - 09/01/2006 18:01
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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Well, there you go.
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#273848 - 09/01/2006 18:09
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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It probably won't work outside a Mac.
Found this:
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The Radeon 9600 Pro is called the "PC and Mac Edition" because it has both PC and Mac ROM code. It's the first graphics card that's compatible with both. Now mid-range Windows PC users can drive the Dual-Link 30" Cinema LCD display without buying an expensive workstation card like the nVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL.
I can confirm that it works in a PC. My boss got a 30 inch Cinema Display and this is the card he put in his PC to drive it.
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#273849 - 09/01/2006 18:10
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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Well, my Christmas present to myself this year should be arriving in the next week
Jesus titty-fscking christ! Just when I thought I had enough for a 2405. Could I be rude and ask how much it cost?
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#273851 - 09/01/2006 20:21
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
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Damn, that's a good deal. The 30" screens are beautiful. I just wish dell had put the same array of inputs on the 30" as the 2405fpw has. The 30" would be perfect for my combination monitor/bedroom HDTV setup. I guess I'll have to "live" with the 2405 for a while.
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#273853 - 09/01/2006 20:30
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 25/08/2000
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Loc: NH USA
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Drool....
I guess you were a very good boy last year if that's your present. Wow.
-Zeke
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#273854 - 09/01/2006 20:41
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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I assume it's cost saving. From what I read, it supports the panel's native resolution, and one quarter of that only. Which means the scaling circutry is a non issue. The 2405fpw will accept just about any resolution and scale it to fit or stretch or display it natively. Dell knows how much that circuitry costs, and probably knows how much we'd be willing to pay for it.
If I was buying a computer monitor, it'd be a non issue. However, I bought my 2405fpw as a TV and a monitor, and was hopeing the 3007 would be a drop in replacement when the time came.
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#273855 - 10/01/2006 01:46
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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Nice piece of kit. So, is that still a top notch Samsung panel in there like the other Dells? I love all the 1905's I have at work, so I'm sure this 3007 is similarly stellar.
Oh, but IBM T221, its 22.2 inches seems so small now. When my 8 year old 21" Nokia 445xpro CRT dies, replacement is going to be a tough decicion.
Still, hands down, the most important computer component is the monitor, and thus deserves the biggest budget. If anyone feels bad about the price of an excelent monitor, just consider that women blow that much on handbags multiple times a season. <grumble> damn having to list my sister's unwanted handbags on ebay </grumble>
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#273856 - 10/01/2006 11:40
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dylan]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Loc: Cambridge, England
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I can confirm that it works in a PC. My boss got a 30 inch Cinema Display and this is the card he put in his PC to drive it.
Was that under Windows? I can't find any trace of dual-link support for Radeon in X11 R6.9.0 
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#273857 - 10/01/2006 13:17
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: peter]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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man radeon ??
Perhaps one just treats it as a multi-head display?
Edited by mlord (10/01/2006 13:18)
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#273858 - 11/01/2006 08:49
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: andym]
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Jesus titty-fscking christ! Just when I thought I had enough for a 2405. Could I be rude and ask how much it cost?
http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/Pro...x&sku=52657
£1,195.10 + VAT
Edit:
It was £1,195.10 this morning (with a discount). The discount has now vanished and it is listed as £1,406.00
Edited by andy (11/01/2006 13:16)
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#273860 - 11/01/2006 12:56
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: peter]
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I can confirm that it works in a PC. My boss got a 30 inch Cinema Display and this is the card he put in his PC to drive it.
Was that under Windows? I can't find any trace of dual-link support for Radeon in X11 R6.9.0
Yes, Windows. Dunno about any other OS.
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#273861 - 11/01/2006 13:00
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Geoff]
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Damn, I was hoping someone actually knew it  But yes, that's where it's from. I quote that movie all the time. Too bad none of my friends ever know what I'm talking about.
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#273862 - 11/01/2006 18:20
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[Re: andy]
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In preparation, I was wondering if someone could recommend some sort of window organizer for...Windows. Either that or have some suggestions for how to organize open windows. I suspect I'll be using the "tile vertically" option quite a bit. Any other tips? ps-I believe the monitor arrived at my office today. I'm not currently there, so I'll know when I get back there at 5. Hopefully I'll be setting up this beauty tonight
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#273863 - 12/01/2006 03:57
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dylan]
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Sorry to post to my own thread again, but I have a question directly related to the thread title. I'm all hooked up and the monitor is working. wow. I must admit, it takes me like two seconds to move my eyes diagonally across the screen, and I LOVE IT I'm still connected to my 9700 (the 9600 hasn't arrived yet), and the current problem is that I can't get any resolution past 1024x768 to work all on the screen at once. Anything higher than that, and I have to move my cursor to the edge of the screen in order to see the rest of the desktop. Why is it doing this?
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#273864 - 12/01/2006 04:13
Re: Video card resolutions
[Re: Dignan]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
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Did you try 1280 x 800? According to the specs that's the only resolution it'll support. I'm not sure exactly what dell means by "factory preset resolutions" however.
Matthew
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#273865 - 12/01/2006 05:31
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[Re: matthew_k]
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*edit*
That makes sense, and you were correct. It wasn't giving me that resolution as an option before, but it is now. The funny thing is that this resolution is nearly small enough for me. I can't imagine what the full resolution is going to be like!!
Thanks everyone for your help. I'm going to post pictures when I get a chance.
Edited by Dignan (12/01/2006 05:34)
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#273866 - 13/01/2006 04:19
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[Re: andy]
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was £1,195.10 this morning (with a discount). The discount has now vanished and it is listed as £1,406.00
and this morning it is £1,249.00, they really can't make up their minds can they ?
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#273867 - 13/01/2006 15:50
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[Re: andy]
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and this morning it is £1,249.00, they really can't make up their minds can they?
Overclockers list it at £1100+VAT, but they don't seem to have any in stock.
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#273868 - 16/01/2006 04:57
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[Re: andym]
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So I now have my monitor all set up and running. I have my Radeon 9600PRO installed and finally running 2560x1600. I'm in love. This screen is simply gorgeous! I have more screen real estate than I know what to do with! I've already checked out how several programs look with it, including DVD-lab (I have a couple very large DVD layouts, and I can see every bit of them at the same time). I also opened up a couple photos I took on my Canon G2's highest resolution. I checked out what zoom level I was at and was amazed to find out it was at 1:1. Anyway, here's some before and after shots (the last one is before I had the new card installed, so it doesn't look quite right):   
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#273869 - 16/01/2006 15:13
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[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
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Nice corner! But where's the docked empeg hiding?
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#273870 - 16/01/2006 15:51
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[Re: mlord]
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Hehe, sorry, my empeg usually lives in the car. I wish I had a nice dock for it, though!
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