#276633 - 01/03/2006 16:06
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Registered: 20/07/1999
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Loc: UK
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OK, one for the UK people. Where is the cheapest place I can get decent quality 2-4GB flash memory cards, and 1GB USB memory sticks? Or, perhaps I should say, where is the cheapest reputable place that will actually deliver the things after taking my money?  pca
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#276634 - 01/03/2006 17:04
Re: flash memory
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Here in the US flash memory fell through the floor two weeks ago or so. If you havn't had the coresponding price drops, it may be worth it to order it from over here. A slow san disk 4GB CF cards are going for $150 with a $20 rebate. Fast ones are about $175. You can get a 1GB USB drive for $33 with $10 in rebates.
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#276635 - 02/03/2006 03:14
Re: flash memory
[Re: matthew_k]
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Registered: 10/11/2000
Posts: 497
Loc: Utah, USA
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Any recommendation for a good fast SD card, around 1GB? I can find all sorts of prices, I just don't know which cards are faster than which others.
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#276636 - 02/03/2006 03:37
Re: flash memory
[Re: adavidw]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Robgalbraith.com has SD cards in their database if you check out a camera that takes SD cards, like the Canon 1D mkII.
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#276637 - 02/03/2006 11:21
Re: flash memory
[Re: pca]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
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Amazon.co.uk have a 1GB Sandisk Cruzer Micro for about £30. Its TINY.
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#276638 - 03/03/2006 01:21
Re: flash memory
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Multiwave in California has the Cruzer Micro for $49 Too bad I cheaped out and got some 512's, the prices are droping daily.
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#276639 - 03/03/2006 01:27
Re: flash memory
[Re: FireFox31]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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What I find neat about the micros is that you can take a sharp knife or razor and slice the gummy blob off from around the metal case. That slims them down and they fit nicely on the key chain.
Can't figure why nobody has sold them like that to start.
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#276640 - 03/03/2006 01:37
Re: flash memory
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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On the latest few Micro's I bought (for work), the soft plaster outer covering slips right off. That leaves the entire drive the thickness of the USB connector. They even come with two alternate color sleeves/caps, which are a great replacement if you loose the cap or scratch it.
The older Micro's (no, not possessive, pluralization of a brand name) had the sleeve fixed in place, I think. I'd check, but my co-workers have them now.
And CURSE their engineering department for having such a well lit activity light on the end. If only I had that knowledge.
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#276641 - 03/03/2006 01:38
Re: flash memory
[Re: gbeer]
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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This is the best one I have seen to go on a key chain. I'll probably get one soon since I finally lost my 256M key.
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#276642 - 03/03/2006 02:43
The nude Cruzer Micro
[Re: msaeger]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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#276643 - 03/03/2006 02:49
Re: flash memory
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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And CURSE their engineering department for having such a well lit activity light on the end. If only I had that knowledge.
Sounds like there's an interesting story here.
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#276644 - 03/03/2006 03:39
Re: flash memory
[Re: gbeer]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Sounds like there's an interesting story here.
See here.
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#276645 - 03/03/2006 04:46
Re: flash memory
[Re: gbeer]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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PQI has a 'housing-less' USB drive that is thin enough to fit unnoticed in your wallet. Here's a page from a thumb drive mega review from October: http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2549&p=17I was always enamored of the OCZ Rally, but I'm still waiting for the prices to hit bottom. I'm just a cheep b@stard like that. 
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#276646 - 03/03/2006 12:48
Re: flash memory
[Re: FireFox31]
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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Multiwave in California has the Cruzer Micro for $49 Too bad I cheaped out and got some 512's, the prices are droping daily.
These Sandisk drives are great. I have a Cruzer mini and I'm very impressed with it. I'm also very impressed with the activity light, as it helps to know when it's okay to take the drive out. I went all out with mine and sprung for the 4GB version, and now I have all my common program installation files on there, and that's only taking up about 300MB.
Does anyone know where I can find a list of good standalone applications? Ones that don't have to be installed, but just run out of a folder? In case anyone else wants some suggestions, here's what I have so far:
- Audacity
- Process Explorer
- Scanner
- Media Player Classic
- mplayer
- PocketDivXEncoder
- an old version of Paint Shop Pro (5) [this one's my favorite - I love having PSP anywhere I go]
Any other suggestions? I read somewhere that Firefox can run standalone, but that might have been a much older version. I have the install file on there, but it would be nice to be able to just run it off the thumb drive.
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#276648 - 03/03/2006 15:36
Re: flash memory
[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12345
Loc: Sterling, VA
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There was one particularly good comment in there with a big list of programs. Thanks! I also followed that site to this site, however, and that is a great page. Thanks for the link!
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#276649 - 03/03/2006 15:48
Re: flash memory
[Re: Dignan]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Yup- that was the biggest nugget.
You're welcome!
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#276650 - 03/03/2006 17:11
Re: flash memory
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Micro's (no, not possessive, pluralization of a brand name)
Yeah, that's not how that works.
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#276651 - 03/03/2006 17:18
Re: flash memory
[Re: msaeger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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I have two suggestions for keychain ones: the "Geek Squad" (ugh) one, which is cool because of the integrated cap, and the Swiss Army Knife one. I also have the PQI Intelligent Stick one, which works really well, and is quite small, but I find that the wallet case is less than spectacular. It's a little too thick and is made of fairly brittle plastic. Mine still holds onto the thing only because I have it pointed down into the card slot. That said, the USB key itself is undamaged.
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#276652 - 03/03/2006 22:09
Re: flash memory
[Re: wfaulk]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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I'm about to purchase a 4GB MMC card for my Nokia 6230 so I can use it like a cheap iPod nano for my law-enforced 2 hour commute to work. Can also use it in my digital camera then. US$142 shipped to Australia on ebay (Flashman852 I think is the seller). They just dropped about US$30 in price in the past couple of days.
But then some people are against Paypal/Ebay. Personally I've haven't had any major problems but I'm also fairly cautious. As long as you are patient and don't get into bidding wars I find ebay OK. The above mentioned ones are Buy-It-Now anyway.
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#276653 - 04/03/2006 16:42
Re: flash memory
[Re: matthew_k]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Wow, flash really has fallen through the floor! $99 for 4GB USB is crazy. I carry around a 4GB microdrive-based unit which is a little bulky. Maybe it's time to downsize...
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#276654 - 04/03/2006 19:30
Re: flash memory
[Re: robricc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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4GB USB2 Flash drives (including that one) are still over twice that in the UK.
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#276655 - 06/03/2006 12:43
Re: flash memory
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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I have two suggestions for keychain ones
I've got some no-name OEM keychain USB stick. It just says "Super*Flash" on it. It's 1Gb, USB 2.0, and it's exceptionally small, because they've dispensed with the metal shield around the USB contacts. You just wedge it in the USB port and hope it stays there.
It's this one, in fact.
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#276656 - 07/03/2006 00:35
Re: flash memory
[Re: Roger]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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I've looked at those, without the shield, models. It just strikes me that the contacts are subject to too much wear, tear and contamination.
No doubt it's an entirely irrational opinion.
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#276657 - 10/03/2006 07:23
Re: flash memory
[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 06/03/2006
Posts: 28
Loc: New Jersey, United States
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I also have the PQI Intelligent Stick one so far I've been very happy with it
My only gripes are
I wish they made a higher capacity version, and it had a loop for key chain atachment.
Edited by HOT2N (10/03/2006 07:27)
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#276658 - 10/03/2006 13:07
Re: flash memory
[Re: pca]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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2GB Apacer stick, CDN$132. That's what I just purchased locally here yesterday.
26-30MByte/sec read speed, about 35% of that when writing. FAST. Faster than the hard drives in my Empegs, but not quite as swift as the 100GB spinner unit in my Dell i9300.
So for fun, I installed Knoppix-4.02 onto the flash stick. Faster than a CDROM, but not by much. WTF?
Dug around briefly, and discovered that Knoppix screwed up the USB drivers -- the EHCI (USB2 hispeed) driver was not being loaded at boot time. After a brief amount of digging thought the minirt.gz (boot-time ramdisk file), I found the culprit: a simple typo. Fixed that, and now it starts real quick like -- boots up into OpenOffice.org much more quickly (like 10X-15X more quickly) than the native Kubuntu hard disk install on the same machine.
Cool.
Cheers
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#276659 - 10/03/2006 18:04
Re: flash memory
[Re: mlord]
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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16GB thumb drive announced today... man I wish they'd hurry it up with the capacity wars. I can't wait to slap 80gb of flash in my empeg. =]
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#276660 - 10/03/2006 20:09
Re: flash memory
[Re: loren]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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I can't wait to slap 80gb of flash in my empeg. =]
I had the exact same thought when I read that exact article. I've been looking forward to it for a while now, but it's certainly seeming closer.
Matthew
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#276661 - 12/03/2006 02:12
Re: flash memory
[Re: loren]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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16GB thumb drive announced today... man I wish they'd hurry it up with the capacity wars. I can't wait to slap 80gb of flash in my empeg. =]
I gotta ask, How do you connect a usb drive to an Empeg? Is there some kind of ide-usb bridge available?
Edit: It was a fulish question! Google sorted me out. Just buy a 2.5" form ide flash drive.
This one is 64G in size.
http://www.memtech.com/memtech_2.5-inch-...ate-flash-drive
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#276662 - 12/03/2006 03:40
Re: flash memory
[Re: gbeer]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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That'd be an option, but CF cards speak IDE, all you need is a simple adapter.
Hmm,
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#276663 - 12/03/2006 16:38
Re: flash memory
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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Multiwave in California has the Cruzer Micro for $49 Too bad I cheaped out and got some 512's, the prices are droping daily.
I bought a pair of these. I noticed one thing that is different between them and the 512 micro curser I already had. The 512 reports that it is bootable, while the 1GB items do not.
Might be something I did to the 512 and forgot about.
If only this laptop would actually boot from a usb port.
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#276664 - 12/03/2006 17:25
Re: flash memory
[Re: gbeer]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Edit: It was a fulish question! Google sorted me out. Just buy a 2.5" form ide flash drive.
Wow! Exactly!
Without the physical limitations of a spinning disk, the Empeg would have a whole new lease on life.
Beyond allowing multiple orientation mounting, the drive(s) could be left in read/write all the time. This would make a few dreamt-of options a possibility, I imagine.
Would RAM become less of an issue because a swap partition would be available?
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#276665 - 12/03/2006 17:35
Re: flash memory
[Re: Robotic]
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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Would RAM become less of an issue because a swap partition would be available?
No. You shouldn't use flash as swap because you'll wear it out very quickly.
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#276666 - 12/03/2006 19:20
Re: flash memory
[Re: matthew_k]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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CF interface in empeg under a plexiglass lid. I vote this as one the "best mods evar". Picture attached incase the site goes down.
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#276667 - 12/03/2006 19:56
Re: flash memory
[Re: FireFox31]
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old hand
Registered: 07/01/2005
Posts: 893
Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa
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That is amazing! What a cool idea.
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#276668 - 30/03/2006 02:10
Re: flash memory
[Re: loren]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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16GB thumb drive announced today... man I wish they'd hurry it up with the capacity wars. I can't wait to slap 80gb of flash in my empeg. =]
On Engadget a a 64GB thumb drive for $5k.
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#276669 - 30/03/2006 02:50
Re: flash memory
[Re: tman]
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
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You shouldn't use flash as swap because you'll wear it out very quickly.
I wasn't aware this was a big deal... My ipaq uses flash for swap. Doesn't it?
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#276670 - 30/03/2006 03:16
Re: flash memory
[Re: lectric]
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Doubtfull. It probably using normal volatile ram of some sort, which is why the battery dieing causes it to forget everything it ever knew. This always seemed like an amazingly bad design decision and is probably based on flash prices at least 8 years ago. Many current PocketPC's include a flash disk, but this usualy shows up seperatly from the main "drive" which is ROM copied into memory. Another side effect of this is that the thing can never turn itself off, so the batteries are empty (and it has forgotten everything it ever knew) in just a few weeks no matter what.
This could have all changed with the most recent Wince revision, I havn't been keeping up.
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