I am attempting to upgrade my Riomk2a with a new HDD. When I use the MK2 Builder I get the message" couldn't find pump" ox20 and when I run hyperterm it just loops "forever hold their peace" over and over. So what am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance!

Mostly likely causes are disk drive (or cable or IDE header) trouble, or problems with the serial cable or serial port.

Just in case, triple-check and make absolutely sure you're following the instructions in the disk upgrade guide TO THE LETTER.

Perhaps post here exactly what you're doing, right down to the keystrokes and mouse clicks, and then report exactly what you see on the screen.

Sounds like an "off by one" cable plugging issue, or the drive is not jumpered as Master. Also, the builder is only really useful on drives under 40G.

To follow up on what I posted earlier the hdd is a 100 gb Seagate and I have Triple checked everything and have followed the disk upgrade to the T. I have went and installed V2.01-final developer version because I saw someone else had the same problem as me and that worked for them however it hasn't for me and this is the message I get with hyperterm when I try and run Emplode

VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
No primary hard disk
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mStarting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Question: did you build the drive first? Also, there is a bug with the builder utility where it can fail to build the music partition but gives no indication. You might want to try rebuilding.

Yes Paul I did build the drive first and I have tried rebuilding at least six times now so perhaps it is the builder and not me. I have had success in the past building this drive but I needed to use it as extra storage and now I am ready to put it back in the Empeg and now this. Oh well maybe I'll just keep trying and get lucky maybe I won't, we shall see. Thanks for the reply Paul.

hdd is a 100 gb Seagate

Builder is known to have problems sometimes with hard drives >60 GB. Could this be the root of the trouble?

tanstaafl.

Greetings!

Please rebuild the drive using the builder routine. But I want you to reupload the builder firmware to the player. Immediately after the upload completes and the player starts to reboot, yank the power from the empeg. Rig your computer to do a hyperterm capture and plug the empeg back in. Capture the build session boot. Please note, you will likely be prompted to hit "enter" to continue the boot process if there is anything already on the drive. Note any errors and post the capture here. Once the build completes and you go into the disk check, reboot the player and post the boot log here as well.

Thanks!

thans for the reply Paul. I have tried rebuiling the drive as per your instructions and I have noticed that after an attemped rebuild and getting the "couldn't get pump error" the player just sits there looking dead and doesn't reboot itself. I have however pulled the plug immediately after getting the message ran hyperterminal plugged in the player and this is the message I get:

If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...
empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected]
)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...
empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected]
)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...
empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected]
)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them s

This message just loops like this over and over again. Hope this helps you out.

I don't know if this tidbit of info will help but I do have a working 20 GB HDD. I don't know if there is anyway to take what's on the 20GB and put it on the 40GB to make it work?

Hmmm... That usually means the kernel is bad. Can you download a fresh copy of 2.0 developer, attempt to load that and see what happens. Once that kernel is loaded (the .upload file, please), we can work with the 20 to build the 100 manually.

Ok I now have 2.0 developer on the unit and it boots up as normal and here is what hyperterminal says:
e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315
(release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102798)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004c80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
hda: ST9100823A, ATA
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: ST9100823A, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:0a:e
e
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
No primary hard disk
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To ComplùStarti
ng player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Ah. Good. You are able to get into the player, and have enough of developer to work with.

The easiest approach is to install a known good bootable drive in as the master drive, reconfigure (add a jumper) to the new 100GB drive to make it a slave drive, boot with both in place. You should (after possible errors) get to where you can get to a command prompt. From there, you should be able to follow the directions for a manual partition and format.

Well Paul I have done everything correctly and according to hyperterminal everything went fine but when I run Emplode the 100 GB doesn't show up at all. Any ideas? Heres a hyperterm capture after the manual partition and format:

empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected])
empeg dsp audio initialisedRemounti
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,g dsp initialisedn
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A rev
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!l/panel button initialised.order 4, 64k)Penguins of


e000 v1.04itialised,
Copying kernel...eceived SIGINT, u
Calling linux kernel...
(release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
1024
empeg single channel
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11interface...on table
hd
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.mpeg
hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
Scheduli
ide
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102798) o
hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/
Command line: mem=16m
empeg dsp
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/6
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4sh driver initialized

Starting kswapd v 1.5
/sbin/f
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabledev/hda4
Command action
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UARTlesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UARTsettingsed
Remounting fi
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
smc chip id
No primary hard diskast c
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'cond music partition read-on
Scheduling custom logo.Stahlman ([email protected]
N
empeg display initialised.
Restart c
empeg dsp audio initialised
Starting player
empeg dsp mixer initialised : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision aed to op

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
empeg single channel IDEinux kernel...default va
Probing primary interface...inux........................
hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, ATA DISK drive
l logical (5 or ove
hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drivep pr
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Linux version 2.2.1
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6c version 2.95.3 20010315ype `n'
hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63 l
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Are you looking for this drive: hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive ??

I think it may be partially there, just obscured by the hyperterm capture. There is a "hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drivep pr" in that boot, as Mark saw.

Can you capture another boot log? Use the capture to a file feature instead of selecting / cut&paste. The results are much clearer. If, as I think, you have both drives recognized, it should just be a matter of manually partitioning and formatting the 100GB drive.

Both drives are already there, and already partitioned, as seen in the boot log.

-ml

Mmm.. that would mean the music partition has not been "formatted" -- or rather, nobody has successfully run mke2fs on it yet.

-ml

It does sound like it was partitioned, but not formatted. Did you follow the directions on both links in that posting? They went to different procedures.

Yes Paul I followed everything like it said too and it looked in hyperterminal exactly as it did in the links you posted.

But when you reboot, it only shows one drive??? That is extremely strange. Can you take a look at this FAQ entry for setting up (and more specifically capturing text with) hyperterm? I would like to get a capture of a clean boot log. Thanks.

Ok the above attachement has the hyperterminal text captured.

This looks completely correct. The player both found the 100GB drive and mounted the second music partition correctly. What kind of errors are you seeing???

Quote:
hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63
hdb: ST9100823A, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
...
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 (this is okay)
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only

I do not see any errors at all but when I run emplode it only see's the 20 gb hdd.

Please exit to shell, and let me know what the following does. I suspect that you may have partitioned and formatted the music file system on the 100GB, but not added the directory structure...

q (get to shell)
ls /drive0
ls /drive1

Meanwhile, what is your prefered end configuration? Do you want to have this player with a 20GB master and 100GB slave? Do you want to transfer everything from the 20 to the 100? Do you want to have the 100 alone as a boot drive? This will determine how / if you need to copy audio and configuration files, and if you need to move drives around and apply a .upgrade file...

I was going to try and keep the 20gb as the master and the 100 as a slave but at this point it doesn't matter I would just like to get the 100gb working and I did try and apply an upgrade file after the partiton and format to the 100gb and run it alone but it hung up in Emplode. So I would say at this point Paul whatever is the eaisest thing to do is fine!

Well, easiest is to keep the 20 as master and 100 as slave, given this is the way it is already wired / jumpered / configured.

Any results from that "ls /drive1"? I suspect that the directory structure that the player relies on (/driveX/fids) is not there on the 100...

EDIT: Ah. I see you posted while I was replying. Yup. That is the problem. Do this:

rw ; rwm
mkdir /drive1/fids
rom ; ro
reboot empeg
test.

No such luck with that Paul and I have attached another hyperterm capture upon the reboot.

Marking thread as having a new post...

By the way, did you initialize the dynamic data partition also? That would have been this command: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc3". Just checking.

Excellent...

Success! It is showing 110 GB of free space in Emplode. You are my hero Paul! Seriously though thank you very much for all the troubleshooting and help I really appreciate it!

Cool!!! No worries. Glad I could help!

Roger - if you are reading this, one thing though is that the notes assume that you are always working with the second drive / drive1 / hdc... EXCEPT for the directory creation step, which for some reason assumes the first drive, with a note below saying you might need drive1. You might want to swap this, so that the file is internally consistent. A thought...

Thanks!!!