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#283865 - 07/07/2006 19:17 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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I believe HyperTerminal Personal Edition (free) solves that bug. But that's still really just downloading yet another application.
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#283866 - 07/07/2006 22:31 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: wfaulk]
coolsi
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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I have good news!!!! Its seems like the player has come back to life!!!! One thing though. After I pasted the mount -n /dev command the prompt just disapeared. How long should wait? It seems like its finished since the player displays end of playlist. It doesn't responf to control^c. How should I enter the last two commands? swap off and exit?
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#283867 - 07/07/2006 22:49 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
mlord
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Just reboot.

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#283868 - 07/07/2006 23:16 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: mlord]
coolsi
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Ok rebooted and exited shell prompt. Player now responds to buttons and it actually loads the software.

I was going to go ahead and load a few songs just to make sure all was well but it errored out when it tried to rebuild the database. I closed emplode. Should I run the 2.01 final once more? Do you think running the builder image will correct the database error in emplode?
One note...it still seems to run continuesly when applying power, no change in whine until power off. Steady hummm.... My friends Empeg is quiet until you hear the songs change.
I really appreciate you're devotion in helping me repair my Empeg.

EDIT: Ran Emplode once more with ethernet cbl and same results. Downloading failed while rebuilding database.
Error 0xc0041002


Edited by coolsi (07/07/2006 23:57)
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#283869 - 09/07/2006 22:56 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
0xC0041002 is "No such file or directory" (Player error).

Did you try a manual database rebuild?
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#283870 - 10/07/2006 02:48 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
coolsi
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Quote:
0xC0041002 is "No such file or directory" (Player error).

Did you try a manual database rebuild?


Are you referring to this faq?
http://www.riocar.org/modules.php?op=mod...;faqent=220#220

Then no I haven't yet. I was looking around the faq's and that entry was the most relevent to my situation. I tried removing the databases/playslist and tags then player -i as I did in an earlier post. Here is what I got.
empeg:/# player -i
Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia

player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Mlord suggested a corrupt tag in an earlier post but how do I get rid of them? Can you point me to the info on manually rebuilding the databases?
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#283871 - 10/07/2006 03:45 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Can you point me to the info on manually rebuilding the databases?

That was the thing you linked.

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Mlord suggested a corrupt tag in an earlier post but how do I get rid of them?


If in fact that's the problem (no guarantee it is, but what the hay)...

You would figure out which song file has a corrupt tag then delete both of its corresponding FIDs from your player's hard disk.

I don't know an easy way of how to locate which track has a corrupt tag. Assuming that your song files were copied to the player pretty much straight from your PC's hard disk (and you didn't modify the tags on the empeg), and assuming you still have the song files on your PC's hard disk, then you can browse through them there and look for things with garbage in their tags.

You should tend to look at files you added to the player recently, first. You should also first concentrate on files that you got off the internet, before moving on to files you ripped yourself.

It's also possible that the problem is a corrupt song file and not just a tag with garbage data in it. In that case, your search repair method would be similar.

In either case, after removing the offending files, you would manually rebuild the database using the steps at the FAQ entry you just linked. Make sure you do those steps ultra carefully, pasting each line into the terminal program directly from the FAQ so you don't mistype anything.
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#283872 - 10/07/2006 05:05 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
coolsi
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Ok, I just followed the link to rebuilding the database and its all the same. File or directory not found on each of those commands. After I enter exit....how long should I wait 'while it rebuilds the database'? Reason is it seems to be working (no prompt) but the player is 'off' and no sound coming from the hard drives. But after 10 minutes (of nothing happening) I hit control^c and it says something about SIGNIT or user interuption. Then it displays the info I posted earlier. I feel like I;m stopping the process but nothing seems to be happening.

Not sure if your aware but I deleted all the music in an earlier post. So I have no music just an empty playlist.

Builder Image here I come.....
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#283873 - 10/07/2006 05:31 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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the player is 'off' and no sound coming from the hard drives.

Can you wake the player from its sleep mode and use its menus? Can you now load songs back onto the player? Or do you get the same error message in emplode as before?

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I hit control^c and it says something about SIGNIT or user interuption.

Pressing control C is the user interruption. In other words I think it's supposed to say that if you press control C to interrupt the player software.

In all of this, you're using emplode 2.00 final right?
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#283874 - 10/07/2006 13:50 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
coolsi
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Yes, the player now responds to all button presses including all menus and loads the software. I tried loading songs thru emplode but it errors out when trying to rebuild the databases. The player has v2.01 final (dev) firmware and I was using the v2.0 beta 13 version of Emplode which is the one currently hosted on Empeg. I'm not aware of the 2.01 version of Emplode. Other than the database malfunction I have all controls over the player. Just won't allow me to load songs because of the database errors.
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#283875 - 10/07/2006 14:13 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
Roger
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I'm not aware of the 2.01 version of Emplode.


There isn't a 2.01 version of emplode. There is a 2.10 version of emplode, but I'd recommend that you don't use it unless you're loading FLAC or Ogg files -- it's less stable than 2.00-final.
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#283876 - 10/07/2006 17:26 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
tfabris
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I was using the v2.0 beta 13 version of Emplode which is the one currently hosted on Empeg.

Holy crap, you're right!

I don't think emplode itself changed significantly from 2.0 beta 13 to 2.0 final, but the fact that they're linking to the 2.0 beta 13 zip is strange. It should be the 2.0 final version up there. What the heck?

Who's in charge of the empeg.com web site these days?
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#283877 - 10/07/2006 17:34 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Who's in charge of the empeg.com web site these days?

That would appear to be either rob v or mac. I'd guess mac although neither work at empeg anymore.

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#283878 - 10/07/2006 20:02 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
Roger
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I don't think emplode itself changed significantly from 2.0 beta 13 to 2.0 final


IIRC, the only thing to change was the version number. Don't sweat it.
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#283879 - 11/07/2006 04:54 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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OK. It's just that all these places here on the BBS and in the FAQ talk about using version 2.0 final.
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#283880 - 22/07/2006 03:18 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
coolsi
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Update: No change, still has a problem with rebuilding the databases when using emplode. Since I don't have a lot of spare time right now I'm going to go ahead and send it to Stuart over at Eutronix and have them finish it off.

Just want to thank the EmpegBBS crew for all their support in helping me with my player. I appreciate all the support. Thanks Guys!!!
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#283881 - 22/07/2006 11:45 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: coolsi]
spider
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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great thread my player just did this on thursday with 3a11.

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#283882 - 22/07/2006 15:31 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: spider]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
If it happens with an alpha version of the software, I wouldn't necessarily panic and assume your player is having problems. It might just be a bug in the alpha.

Unless you need the alpha software for a specific reason, (such as OGG or FLAC) I'd recommend sticking to 2.0 final.
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#283883 - 22/07/2006 19:25 Re: Player lost settings??? Help with Mk2 [Re: tfabris]
spider
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yeah i was just trying out the ogg and flac support. it worked quite well for the last 2 months. I downgraded back to 2.01 after it totally locked up on me on thursday. The downgrade went good and it was back fully functional. I then tried reupgrading to 3.11a but it went back to its locked up nature. I'll tinker with it a bit more when I get a day off.

just glad i stumbled accross this thread.

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