#292810 - 08/03/2007 18:19
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
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Loc: Canada
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Try switching to R51 from R52. EDIT: Yes, we absolutely need this, I think.
Good call there Mark. The illumination kit is happy now over 20 feet of cable!
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..figured it wouldn't matter because the receiving end is still limited to 256K isn't it?
That part is a bit unclear to me from reading the datasheet, but the impression I'm getting from re-reading it now, is that the 256K limit is just for the transmitters, not the receivers.
They give a different measurement for the receiver: 0.15us propagation delay, which means they should be good for at least 2mb/sec or so. EDIT: well, actually, that number mightn't even affect it, other than delaying things.. so the real limitation could be the 50ns receiver skew time. Still good for (a lot) more than 1mb/sec.
Cheers
Edited by mlord (08/03/2007 18:23)
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#292811 - 08/03/2007 21:57
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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old hand
Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
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Aww yeah! Great work Mark and Stu! Any chance of seeing some pics?
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#292812 - 08/03/2007 23:45
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: Mach]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Hope these will do. I never did post the back of the transmitter board, so here it is. Stu 
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#292813 - 08/03/2007 23:47
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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The top view. Stu 
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#292814 - 08/03/2007 23:48
Re: We Have Lights!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Side view. Stu 
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#292815 - 08/03/2007 23:49
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Front with buttons lit. Stu 
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#292816 - 08/03/2007 23:50
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Angle view with lights. Stu 
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#292818 - 09/03/2007 00:20
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
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Loc: Canada
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Angle view with lights.
Mmmmm... that's just begging for a custom black walnut fascia.
And without a handle in the way, wooden fascias can be a lot less fragile now!
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#292819 - 09/03/2007 00:22
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: Mach]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Was thinking about that today. I've yet to find the correct sized rivet to fit the regulator. I've got the diameter down, but they are still too short. I think the third time's the charm. Of course if you don't care about the rivets, they are more or less ready to go.
Stu
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#292821 - 09/03/2007 00:50
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: mlord]
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old hand
Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
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I'm with you on that one. Not having to match the handle opens up a wide range of possibilities. I've got stack of quarter inch acrylic, as well as a 2x4 magnifying glass that has me thinking.
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#292822 - 09/03/2007 01:09
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Was thinking about that today. I've yet to find the correct sized rivet to fit the regulator.
Isn't it about the same as those from PCATS tuner kits?
There might be part number floating around for those..
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#292823 - 09/03/2007 01:37
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Isn't it about the same as those from PCATS tuner kits?
Should be exactly the same. I've not come across a part number though. The problem is that the listed size panel for which they are intended is a but misleading. Even after careful measurement they just didn't fit as expected. We're having to buy ones quite a bit narrower and longer than the actual hole dimensions. Anyway I'm fairly certain I have a part number that works through my own trial and error. Once everything is verified I'll post a revised parts list for anyone wanting to tackle this one on their own.
Stu
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#292824 - 09/03/2007 02:16
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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old hand
Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
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Why not just use a screw and nyloc nut? 4-40 x 3/8 should fit it. www.mcmaster.com91831A005 nyloc nut 91772A108 screw What I do is to use a 0.093” plated thru hole and drive the 4-40 x ¼ screw into that. Too late here, but maybe next time.
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#292825 - 09/03/2007 02:20
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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Nice! Glad it all worked out. Making a new front facia would be nice since the handle doesn't apply. Walnut - now that would match my Mini.
I had a weird thought this morning. I've worked with the empeg for hundreds of hours and I don't even own one. I don't even own an MP3 player! Go figure...
Now that I think of it, I think Patrick who designed the thing didn't own an empeg player until many years after they were released.
Good job Stu!
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#292826 - 09/03/2007 12:31
Re: We Have Lights!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Why not just use a screw and nyloc nut? 4-40 x 3/8 should fit it.
Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about that, and still might try it if I can't get the proper rivets. The advantage of the rivets is that they don't require any tools to install and also are nonconductive if they should fall out.
Stu
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#292827 - 09/03/2007 12:54
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Why not just use a screw and nyloc nut? 4-40 x 3/8 should fit it.
Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about that, and still might try it if I can't get the proper rivets. The advantage of the rivets is that they don't require any tools to install and also are nonconductive if they should fall out.
There's a fastener shop just a short ski trek (or bicycle ride in summer) away from here, which stocks things like this. I might pay them a visit later today..
Cheers
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#292828 - 09/03/2007 19:14
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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old hand
Registered: 01/10/2002
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Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about that, and still might try it if I can't get the proper rivets. The advantage of the rivets is that they don't require any tools to install and also are nonconductive if they should fall out.
Stu
With the nyloc nut, they won't fall out.
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#292829 - 11/03/2007 14:09
Re: We Have Lights!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Yea, good work on the lights Stu and Mark, and also thanks to MarkM, Patrick, and all others for creating this. Remote VFD on a slimline CF empeg could open worlds of possibilities. Great to see this device still having new life after all these years. Let's put those Sirius / XM suction cup mount installs to shame!
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#292830 - 11/03/2007 21:08
Re: We Have Lights!
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stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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Wow, those adapters are pretty cool. The relatively low cost of memory is amazing. When the empegs first came out I looked into solid state drives and it was about $1000 a GB, so for 30GB it was $30k. Now 2 16GB CF cards would run about $600.
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#292831 - 13/03/2007 06:32
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: MarkM]
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new poster
Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 33
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Is it too late to get in on any sort of list for one of these?
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#292832 - 13/03/2007 11:17
Re: We Have Lights!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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I'll add you to the list. I guess you want one? You would be well into the second run, which I'm not even sure will happen but if it does, you are set.
1-MarkM (2)
2-Mach (2)
3-caseyse (2)
4-juenk (1)
5-EtN (1)
6-music (1)
7-jarob10 (1)
8-JimHogan (1)
9-TigerJimmy (1)
10-brabax22 (1)
11-pgrzelak (2?)
12-iank (1?)
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#292833 - 13/03/2007 14:24
Re: We Have Lights!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Per request, thirdeyevision has been added to the list.
1-MarkM (2)
2-Mach (2)
3-caseyse (2)
4-juenk (1)
5-EtN (1)
6-music (1)
7-jarob10 (1)
8-JimHogan (1)
9-TigerJimmy (1)
10-brabax22 (1)
11-pgrzelak (2?)
12-iank (1?)
13-thirdeyevision (1?)
We are at 17 sets now. If everyone in the list is definitely buying the number in the list, we only need 3 more sets to MAYBE make a second run. The first run will probably start shipping this week and trickle out as I build them.
Stu
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#292834 - 13/03/2007 23:35
Re: We Have Lights!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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I put a me too in a while back. Guess it didn't register. Please Please add me too. edit: 1 unit.
Glenn
Edited by gbeer (13/03/2007 23:36)
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#292835 - 14/03/2007 00:30
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Hi Glenn,
Sorry about that. I've put you in the proper chronological order.
1-MarkM (2)
2-Mach (2)
3-caseyse (2)
4-juenk (1)
5-EtN (1)
6-music (1)
7-jarob10 (1)
8-JimHogan (1)
9-TigerJimmy (1)
10-brabax22 (1)
11-pgrzelak (2?)
12-gbeer (1)
13-iank (1?)
14-thirdeyevision (1?)
That makes 18. Only 2 more.
Stu
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#292836 - 14/03/2007 07:35
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veteran
Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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That makes 18. Only 2 more.
OK, OK, I'll go for one.
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#292837 - 14/03/2007 10:14
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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1-MarkM (2)
2-Mach (2)
3-caseyse (2)
4-juenk (1)
5-EtN (1)
6-music (1)
7-jarob10 (1)
8-JimHogan (1)
9-TigerJimmy (1)
10-brabax22 (1)
11-pgrzelak (2?)
12-gbeer (1)
13-iank (1?)
14-thirdeyevision (1?)
15-julf (1)
One to go!
Stu
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#292838 - 14/03/2007 15:16
Re: We Have Lights!
[Re: maczrool]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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I'm SOOO tempted. But I don't need one right now, my empeg is just fine in the dash where it belongs. But someday I may own a car where that's not possible. And I don't want to miss out if this is gonna be all there is.
What are the chances of future batches, if my theoretical future need comes to pass?
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#292839 - 14/03/2007 15:31
Re: We Have Lights!
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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What are the chances of future batches, if my theoretical future need comes to pass?
I'd say pretty good. If we make a second run of PCBs, it might make sense to order an extra 4 or 5 PCB sets for just in case situations. I might want one some day too afterall.
Maybe you could buy just the PCBs and hold on to it for insurance purposes? Everything else is off-the-shelf parts with the exception of the display cable on one end and the ribbon in between, but it shouldn't be too hard to make or buy either of those.
Stu
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