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#302867 - 09/10/2007 03:48 You spin me right (or left) round, baby...
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
In which direction (clockwise or counterclockwise) is the dancer pirouetting?

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#302868 - 09/10/2007 03:57 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Spoiler:
pybpxjvfr
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#302869 - 09/10/2007 07:10 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: andy]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Quote:
Spoiler:
pybpxjvfr


Keep watching, I did this a couple of months ago and it took a couple of minutes for me.

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#302870 - 09/10/2007 09:05 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: g_attrill]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
freaky
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#302871 - 09/10/2007 11:27 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
Neat! I had to force myself to think she was spinning the opposite direction I thought she was (the wrong direction).

Also interesting: if you saw her spin the wrong direction at first, then were able to see her spin the right way, try seeing her spin the wrong way again. It was hard for me to do, even though that's how I saw her for a couple minutes...
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#302872 - 09/10/2007 12:15 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: Dignan]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Maybe I'm wierd, but I don't see anything strange about it. I immediately picked the correct direction and can't fathom how anyone could pick any other direction.

I just don't see it.
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#302873 - 09/10/2007 12:23 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: JBjorgen]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I imagine that the point is that there really are no cues that she's spinning clockwise other than that her hand and leg are in a leeward direction. There's no reason she couldn't be spinning against the grain. That said, I cannot even force my brain to see her spinning any way other than clockwise.
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#302874 - 09/10/2007 12:24 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: andy]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Quote:
Spoiler:
pybpxjvfr

Spoilering something when the only two options are a 9-letter word and a 16-letter word doesn't really hide anything. I suppose it would be only 13 letters for you, though.
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#302875 - 09/10/2007 12:41 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: wfaulk]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
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Loc: Hants, UK
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I imagine that the point is that there really are no cues that she's spinning clockwise other than that her hand and leg are in a leeward direction. There's no reason she couldn't be spinning against the grain. That said, I cannot even force my brain to see her spinning any way other than clockwise.


That's the idea - there is no "correct" direction, but the way the body is posed leads the brain to think it is rotating clockwise. However staring at it seems to reset something, and it slows and then flips somehow, it's quite impressive. If you are having trouble getting it to do it automatically try staring at it and blank your mind for a couple of minutes, don't try and follow it.

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#302876 - 09/10/2007 12:57 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: g_attrill]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
Nope, don't get it - she is only going clockwise

EDIT: oop - there she goes!


Edited by furtive (09/10/2007 13:00)
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#302877 - 09/10/2007 13:05 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: furtive]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
My first impression was that she turned counter-clockwise and I couldn't convince myself that it was possible for her to be turning clockwise.
A moment later she was turning clockwise and I couldn't remember any of my arguments against it! I guess it helps that I'm still a bit groggy without a cup of coffee.

Perhaps more important questions are "Who is she?" and "What's her number?"
LOL
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#302878 - 09/10/2007 13:16 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: Robotic]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
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Loc: London, UK
She also appears to be able to levitate. Certainly a talented lady
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#302879 - 09/10/2007 13:19 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: JBjorgen]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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I just don't see it.

One thing that helped me was to scroll down so just the shadow is visible, and focus on the rotation of that. If I do that, I can basically "turn it around" and convince whatever portion of my brain handles these important matters that she's spinning the other way.
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#302880 - 09/10/2007 13:54 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
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Loc: London, UK
I found looking to the left of the image allowed me to see it going anti-clockwise, and looking to the right of it clockwise
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#302881 - 09/10/2007 14:16 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
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Loc: Erie, CO
She's turning... breasts... uhhh... what was the question?
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#302882 - 09/10/2007 14:46 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
I couldn't make it work both ways until I tried tonyc's trick. Fun stuff.

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#302883 - 09/10/2007 15:12 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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#302884 - 09/10/2007 15:23 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Yeah, this is all variation on the idea of the Necker cube.
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#302885 - 09/10/2007 18:10 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: wfaulk]
Folsom
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Registered: 12/08/2001
Posts: 175
Loc: Atlanta
If I stare at her bottom foot, I can make it look like her raised leg is going left and right with her back toward me. That is kinda freaky.

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#302886 - 09/10/2007 18:38 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
hybrid8
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Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I hate you.
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#302887 - 10/10/2007 03:47 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
10 minutes of staring, and she's still spinning clockwise... I dunno. I just don't see it.

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#302888 - 10/10/2007 06:46 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: lectric]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
You aren't the only one, furtive posted the animation on another bbs and some people there are on the verge of getting angry about the fact that they almost think that the rest of us are making it up
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#302889 - 10/10/2007 07:07 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: lectric]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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10 minutes of staring, and she's still spinning clockwise... I dunno. I just don't see it.

What he said.

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#302890 - 10/10/2007 07:12 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: andy]
Geoff
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Registered: 21/08/1999
Posts: 381
Loc: Northern Ireland
I was staring at it last night as she spun clockwise, thinking there was no way you could possibly even consider she could be turning the other way, when suddenly it was like she just tilted over a few degrees from vertical and switched direction.

Then it was a real struggle to force my brain to see her going clockwise again.

I think the trick is to let your mind get distracted by the nipples
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#302891 - 10/10/2007 07:55 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: Geoff]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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suddenly it was like she just tilted over a few degrees from vertical and switched direction

Yes, unlike the classic Necker cube she's in perspective: her toe traces out an ellipse, not a straight line. On the assumption you're looking at her from normal eye level, the lower part of that ellipse must be the front, so she's going clockwise. To see her going anti-clockwise, you need to imagine your eye-level being below her foot level.

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#302892 - 10/10/2007 12:29 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: andy]
Tim
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Registered: 25/04/2000
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You aren't the only one, furtive posted the animation on another bbs and some people there are on the verge of getting angry about the fact that they almost think that the rest of us are making it up


It's a schooner!

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#302893 - 10/10/2007 14:28 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: Tim]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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It's a schooner!


LOL. Nice.

I found that just focusing solely on the foot I can make her switch directions at will.
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#302894 - 10/10/2007 14:49 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: Tim]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
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It's a schooner!

Oh, it's a sailboat!
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#302895 - 10/10/2007 14:56 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: JBjorgen]
Cybjorg
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Registered: 23/12/2002
Posts: 652
Loc: Winston Salem, NC
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Maybe I'm wierd, but I don't see anything strange about it. I immediately picked the correct direction and can't fathom how anyone could pick any other direction.

I just don't see it.


Same here. But I was mesmerized, none the less.

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#302896 - 10/10/2007 15:20 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: Tim]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
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It's a schooner!

You know what? THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY!
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#302897 - 10/10/2007 18:37 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: cushman]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
does it make me a sad old fart that I spent 5 minutes watching her going clockwise, anticlockwise, clockwise, anticlockwise before I noticed the nipples...?
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#302898 - 10/10/2007 18:38 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
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I just don't see it.

One thing that helped me was to scroll down so just the shadow is visible, and focus on the rotation of that. If I do that, I can basically "turn it around" and convince whatever portion of my brain handles these important matters that she's spinning the other way.

This trick worked for me, but I had to change my impression of the light source. Because the figure is a silhouette I alway expect the light source to be behind her and (for me, anyway) that results in her turning clockwise. Somehow her bouncing has been added to offset the impression of the shadow's direction.
Maybe
Somehow
I don't know
or something.
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#302899 - 10/10/2007 20:09 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Whoaa! Seriously freaky!

I find I can get her to change direction at will by looking at her shadow on the ground.
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#302900 - 10/10/2007 22:12 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: schofiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
I finally got her to switch after forcing myself to blink slowly a few times. I think I needed to time the blink just right, because I can't do it "at will".

It's interesting how much harder it is to force yourself to change perspective on this one than it is for the Necker cube. I can make the necker cube flip back and forth at will, but this one is really tough.
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#302901 - 22/10/2007 12:50 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: tonyc]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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If you see the dancer spinning clockwise, you’ve got excess spleen qi in your left frontal crockus. This means that you’re a vibrant personality whose passions are apparent to everyone around you, but sometimes you are indecisive. If you see her spinning counter-clockwise, the right ascension of your natal chart lies in your sagittal broab and there are Fire humours dribbling out your left nostril. You should see a doctor as soon as possible.


here
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#302902 - 22/10/2007 12:58 Re: You spin me right (or left) round, baby... [Re: wfaulk]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Loc: Columbus, OH
Wow. For some reason, with the different background, I found it easier to get her to switch directions. For the first time, I got her to go counter-clockwise.
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