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#369605 - 20/10/2017 06:12 Killed my wife's iPhone
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
Started an upgrade on it last night, left it overnight, it now has a passcode. She's never had a passcode!

All I can see on the Apple site says I should restore the phone, unfortunately wife doesn't do backups...

Any ideas on how I can remove the passcode?

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#369606 - 20/10/2017 06:22 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
Sorted, she did have one years ago, that's what it set itself to.

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#369610 - 20/10/2017 11:42 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
K447
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Registered: 29/05/2002
Posts: 798
Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: tahir
... She's never had a passcode!

... how I can remove the passcode?
Perhaps the no passcode policy should be reviewed. Touch ID works well and is quite quick.

I think all the non touch ID iPhone models have been deprecated by the 32 bit hardware end-of-iOS update cycle.

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#369615 - 20/10/2017 16:47 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
Apple's already phasing touch ID out... and I'm not a fan of its replacement...

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#369616 - 20/10/2017 18:08 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: larry818]
K447
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Registered: 29/05/2002
Posts: 798
Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: larry818
Apple's already phasing touch ID out...
The newest iPhone 8 models currently for sale include Touch ID. It will be supported on current hardware for years to come.

‘New sources’ offering supposition regarding iPhone models to be released a year in the future would seem unlikely to have actual knowledge of Touch ID’s future inclusion or exclusion.

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#369617 - 20/10/2017 20:16 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
I had a lot of people ask me why I got an iPhone 8 instead of waiting for the X.

In the month I've owned my iPhone, there's been about two dozen times where the phone is about a foot to the right of me and I wanted to check something, so I just pushed the home button with my finger.
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#369618 - 20/10/2017 20:30 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
Well, the OS upgrade was in advance of her upgrade to an 8. Neither of us have passcodes as the kids always end up messing around on ours when they've run out of battery/4g etc.

I was messing around with my brother's 8 earlier and it seems to disable browsing while you're on the phone, I'm sure you can browse and talk simultaneously on my 6...

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#369619 - 20/10/2017 21:35 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
It's probably Verizon. They disable data when you're on a call. Bozos.

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#369620 - 20/10/2017 22:09 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: larry818]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
Originally Posted By: larry818
It's probably Verizon. They disable data when you're on a call. Bozos.

I thought it was a symptom of CDMA networks.
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#369623 - 21/10/2017 04:32 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: Dignan]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Originally Posted By: Dignan
I thought it was a symptom of CDMA networks.


It is. But Verizon and Sprint users should be able to do simultaneous voice and data while on LTE. I haven't lived in the US in a while (or UK for that matter), but I imagine that should be becoming increasingly prevalent these days.
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#369625 - 21/10/2017 05:39 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
You’ve turned on iCloud backup for her now, right ?
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#369626 - 21/10/2017 06:27 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: Dignan]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
Originally Posted By: Dignan
I thought it was a symptom of CDMA networks.


It's a limitation of Verizon's (and Sprint's) take on CDMA. Not that Verizon's data ever worked well anyway... My phone was lte for data, and they still turned it off during a call.

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#369634 - 23/10/2017 10:45 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: andy]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
Originally Posted By: andy
You’ve turned on iCloud backup for her now, right ?


She has a 64gb phone with about 7 million photos on it, almost full.

I need to back it up for her regularly

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#369635 - 23/10/2017 17:09 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
Originally Posted By: tahir
Originally Posted By: andy
You’ve turned on iCloud backup for her now, right ?


She has a 64gb phone with about 7 million photos on it, almost full.

I need to back it up for her regularly

200GB of iCloud storage is $36/year.

100GB of Google Drive storage is $20/year.

I like Google Photos for any smartphone user. It makes storage management a breeze by deleting all backed-up photos from the phone, but in the Google Photos app there's no visible difference between the photos in the cloud and on the phone (as long as you have a signal).
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#369638 - 23/10/2017 20:14 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: Dignan]
K447
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Registered: 29/05/2002
Posts: 798
Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Dignan
...

I like Google Photos for any smartphone user. It makes storage management a breeze by deleting all backed-up photos from the phone, but in the Google Photos app there's no visible difference between the photos in the cloud and on the phone (as long as you have a signal).
How is that a ‘but’?

This seems similar to how Apple manages photos when iCloud is allowed to manage the on-device photo storage.

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#369641 - 24/10/2017 15:53 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
Ok sorry! I haven't used it myself, so I'm more familiar with how Google Photos handles things.

From what I've seen of iCloud Photos I just like Google Photos more anyway. The Assistant is pretty fantastic. It's also really easy to create albums to share with other people, and others can collaborate on albums. It's also cross-platform so my wife and I were both able to use it when I was on an Android phone.

Remember, I'm an iPhone user now but it's going to take quite a lot to get me to switch to Apple services!
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#369643 - 24/10/2017 17:30 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
Another issue for us is our appalling broadband, lucky to get 2.6mbps d/l so wife hasn't got much bandwidth to be running icloud backups with.

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#369649 - 24/10/2017 23:56 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
iPhone / Settings / Cellular data / iCloud Drive / off

Limits iCloud Drive to wi-fi.
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#369650 - 25/10/2017 07:31 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
That isn't going to help. It is his broadband and hence his wifi that is only running at 2.6mb, not his cellular service.

Also, I don't think there is an option there to turn off cellular usage for iCloud.

Further, iCloud drive isn't what is used for iCloud backup.

And finally, iCloud backup only runs over wifi anyway, it won't backup when it is only on cellular.

wink
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#369651 - 25/10/2017 09:53 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
Can you schedule iTunes backups over wifi?

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#369659 - 25/10/2017 16:20 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Sadly not. iTunes backups only happen over USB.
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#369668 - 27/10/2017 09:05 Re: Killed my wife's iPhone [Re: tahir]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1919
Loc: London
That's a bummer. I will try and be more diligent in backing her phone up.

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