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#62345 - 23/01/2002 16:11 IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

I just took delivery of two of the wooden fascia (Maple Burn, dark stain) from Rob Vreeland (excellent work!!!) and four IBM 60GB hard drives. I will be updating two Mark 2As: one for permanent home and one for travel / office use. Each will have 120GB with custom fascia and lenses.

The drives were the Dell OEMed drives mentioned before, but they are the standard IBM Travelstars.

I am preparing the first one now, doing one at a time, and I will make notes as I do the install.

First impression: it looks like any standard Travelstar.

I am using the "Test builder image" dated 2001/10/22, and I will be loading 2.0b7 + Hijack. So far, the load of the builder image and the pump worked without incident. Builder made the filesystems without any visible errors or problems. Running the disk check now.

The drive had been stress testing for about 1/2 hour. I loaded 2.0b7 on it. No problems or errors. The player loaded nicely.

I will repeat this process for each of the new disks, and then get them set up in their final destination machines. I will then reload them with 2.0b7 and Hijack, and then I will do some test file loads. My bulk moves will be done with the clone utility.

I have just set up both machines, and tested. 120GB works without difficulty. Time to load audio!

More to follow in this thread as it happens, or as events warrant.

- You can never have too much disk space!


Edited by pgrzelak (23/01/2002 20:29)
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#62346 - 23/01/2002 22:46 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: pgrzelak]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
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Loc: SLC, UT, USA
ongrats on ONCE AGAIN having the biggest empeg. May i someday have enough music to fill 120Gigs... i'm pushing 80 though!
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#62347 - 24/01/2002 04:44 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: loren]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Thanks.

This installation went very smoothly. Not a single glitch, so far anyway. The new builder handled the large drives without any issue. I was getting to the point where I was getting low on space and had to start removing audio from the player. So this is a nice upgrade.

Today I will be doing a little research on cloning. And I promise to read the FAQ before asking any questions... : )
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#62348 - 24/01/2002 07:57 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: pgrzelak]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14494
Loc: Canada
If you REALLY have a ton of music to clone, then FTP is the fastest way (with Hijack kernels installed).

Just ftp everything from the /drive*/fids/ directories from the old unit to /drive0/fids/ on the new unit, and then tell emptool/Emplode to force a database rebuild.

Or clone it the slow way.. either way it's just a good night's sleep away from completion.

Enjoy!

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#62349 - 24/01/2002 08:58 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: mlord]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Actually, at this point, even FTP would probably be too slow. I do have a lot of music / audio to move. The 96GB had about 4GB left before the upgrade...

I am thinking of opening the source and target units, swapping the slave hard drive on each, copying the files directly and readjusting the master / slave jumper on the target. Disk to disk should be much faster. Even with this, though, I expect the transfer to take an entire weekend.

One thing I did notice, even with the 96GB pair, is that when I do a "site rw", the ftp session times out / disconnects before the remount is performed. Could the disk size (slowing down the mount) be hitting a timeout threshhold? Not a major issue.
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#62350 - 24/01/2002 09:38 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: pgrzelak]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14494
Loc: Canada
The "SITE RW" is now MUCH faster in v143. I added the missing "nocheck" option (which is also how Emplode does it so quickly)

Cheers

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#62351 - 24/01/2002 11:57 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: pgrzelak]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I am thinking of opening the source and target units, swapping the slave hard drive on each, copying the files directly and readjusting the master / slave jumper on the target. Disk to disk should be much faster. Even with this, though, I expect the transfer to take an entire weekend.

Yes, I would think that disk-to-disk is your fastest method. Playing "Musical Drives" will be tricky, but it sounds like you can handle it.

Don't expect it to be lightning fast, though. The IDE bus on the player isn't the quickest thing in the world. Allowing yourself a weekend for the procedure is a good idea.
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#62352 - 24/01/2002 13:23 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: tfabris]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

It should be fairly harmless. Fortunately, I intend to do the copies in parallel. Twice the throughput - I will be copying files on both empegs at the same time...

1) Start configuration: Source [ s0 & s1 ], Target [ t0 & t1 ]
2) Swap: Source [ s0 & t1 ], Target [ t0 & s1 ]
3) Copy: Source [ cp /drive0/fids/* /drive1/fids ], Target [ cp /drive1/fids/* /drive0/fids ]
4) Copy stray files: Source [ cp /drive0/var/* /drive1/var; my archive directories and symlinks, etc... ]
5) Swap: Source [ s0 & s1 ], Target [ t0 (s1 copy) & t1 (s0 copy) ]
6) Adjust Target Jumper / Position: Target [ t1 (s0 copy) & t0 (s1 copy) ]
7) Close up, resync and test
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#62353 - 24/01/2002 17:12 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: pgrzelak]
ninti
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
> Each will have 120GB with custom fascia and lenses.

The first step on the road to recovery is to admit you have a problem.
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#62354 - 24/01/2002 18:27 Re: IBM 60GB Hard Drives - Installation Notes [Re: ninti]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Please... There are no problems, only "opportunities"... Or so my manager keeps telling me...
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