Yeah, Australia. Brisbane to be precise

Anymore updates on the kits, Patrick? You seem to have gone quite lately...

Patrick has been away - I know he's still working on the project (awaiting delivery of sample parts).

Rob

Okay here is a question.

Given that some of us out here have some flakey soldering is there any chance of a test rig some where with some one to test units before plugging them into our beloved empegs.

Also what would the support issues be with us plugging home made tunners into our empegs

P.S. i'll have two

I don't know, I'm not involved in the project. I daresay the instructions will include some post build tests.

If you plug any third party product into your empeg which damages the player, your warranty will not cover the repair!

Rob

So what's the worst that can happen if we put 12V down any of the pins in the tuner harness? No more tuner possibilities? No more empeg? Fuse replacement?

Matthew

What kind of "homemade" tuner were you planning on hooking up to the empeg?

Cory

You have actually read this thread that you're posting to, right?

I assume the bulk of the tuner harness is occupied by a serial interface and line level audio. A serial (rs232) receiveer will typically handle about +/- 20 to 25 V without permanent damage. A serial driver will typically drive about +/- 13V (take care not to damage your "homemade" tuner). Line level audio inputs really should be driven no higher than 2-3V max. Line level audio inputs can be sensitive; driving them to 12V could (and for extended periods of time probably will) cause permenent damage. Driving any 12V ac signal to line level inputs will also sound terribly distorted... Rework with fine pitch surface mount IC's (A/D converters for instance) requires some skill and specialized soldering tools...

Cory

Yes, I have. I thought he was implying an interim truly home-made tuner. The more I think about it was a strange assumption to make. Take this into consideration when reading this

Cory

lol! Is there a RTFM thread equivalent? RTFT?

No, the serial on the tuner is TTL level not full rs232. Put more than 5v down a pin and you're likely to blow the buffer on the main board - and hopefully not blow anything else.

The audio inputs are probably ok to about 3.3v which is the analogue supply to the ADCs in question.

Hugo

Put me down for a tuner, guys! Am prepared to pay in advance. Cheers.

It's getting quiet here... is there any update?
Do you know when we can expect the tuner kits?

He's still waiting for samples of the tuner module (which goes inside the tuner module).

Rob

Phew! Deep! Great philosophers have thought for centuries about stuff like that!

Is there a recognised sign-up sheet somewhere for getting these tuners? It would be a shame to come this far and not get one.

Is there a recognised sign-up sheet somewhere for getting these tuners?

"No, Neo. We're saying that, when they're ready, you won't need to sign up."

I'm getting the Matrix here. Or maybe i'm just very wrong!

Yeah, I like to do the occasional Matrix reference.

There is no tuner.

Do not try and make a tuner. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth, Patrick is making them

See... Matrix quotes fit every occasion!

Anyway, back to work...

- Trevor

As the french say......Le Bump...

Hmmm....well, I'd certainly be interested. I'm sorry, there are so many posts I might have missed it - do I need to sign up somewhere to reserve a tuner or spot in one of the first batches? Thanks.

If the "kit" tuners become reality, you won't need to have signed up anywhere.

If you hope for pre-manufactured tuners, you can sign up at http://www.eden2.com/empeg/ if you want, but the outlook is looking more and more grim as time goes on.

If the kits come out, it sounds like there will be people who will assemble them for you.

Regardless, if you sign up at the above page, I'll fire off an email when (if) tuner kits become available, so you won't accidentally fall out of the loop. Can't hurt.

Alex

If you hope for pre-manufactured tuners, you can sign up at http://www.eden2.com/empeg/ if you want, but the outlook is looking more and more grim as time goes on.

It isn't getting more grim - we stopped researching a new manufacturing run when Patrick announced his project. With a bit of luck Patrick will be at the European owners meet next month, maybe with a prototype!

Rob

But the outlook for pre-manufactured tuners (and hence my little web site, sniff) is more grim as a direct result of Patrick's project, right? Because that's what I was trying to say.

Or is it easier to produce small (~300) batches of populated through-hole boards than SMT? (i.e. have someone sit there with a soldering iron)

Alex

Um... I think what they mean is that "grim" isn't the word for the pre-manufactured tuners, because it's not going to happen at all.. Nada... Zilch... Zero... Our only chance for a tuner is to buy Patricks kit or Ebay....

That is excellent news but

Will he bring his jet engine as well now that would be real good fun.