Still too big...hasn't anybody come out with an iPod killer yet?

There is the Nomad Jukebox, which while among the smallest of the 2.5 inch laptop drive players, is still a laptop drive player, and the Yepp, which uses the 1.8 inch iPod size drive, but it is not out yet.

And then of course, there are hints about a Rio product, but considering nothing was shown at CES, I don't think we can expect anything for a while. Anybody hear of any iPod killers appearing at CES at all?

edit: deleted references to the Odyessy