Ok, I'm sure most of us would love a unit that had an upgradable hard drive, was pull-out with home RCA's, had a fantastic UI, played DVDs on a 36" widescreen, made coffee while you use GPS etc etc, oh... and played music. I just don't see if coming anytime soon. I HOPE I'm wrong and Camelot appears next week, but the public are just about coping with mp3s, so who knows if the market is ready. I suppose Visteon is paying hundreds of thousands to find this information out.