Ah, so you think some of the lurkers are SB people that would be involved in making this sort of decision . When you say major players are catching up, I have to disagree. Firstly as there are no products available yet and secondly as the proposed products are more consumer friendly and hence lack the hackability of the Empeg. The limited sucess of the Empeg is probably due to only people with an appriciation of the hackability willing to come up with the relativily high price - if you just look at the unit as an MP3 player.

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Rod ,UK Mk2a Sn:1911 Mk2 64gig S/No:341