LOL! I too fall into that 2nd category. I always dreamed of a hard disk MP3 player for the car and never knew it existed until I saw a post on the Anandtech Hot Deals forum. I didn't really have the funds for the 10GB I just bought (credit card), but I couldn't pass up the price. Now the search is on for a cheap but good amp and tuner. Until then, looks like its gonna be played as a living room jukebox.