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#105671 - 17/07/2002 18:27 Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia?
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
Has anyone tried to vacuum metalize or plastic electroplate their fascia or buttons? This is a process that was used quite abit in muscle cars of the 60/70's. See http://www.mrgusa.com/

Why do I ask? Because my RioCar is going into a classic Mustang and I'm trying to figure out how to blend it with the interior. (2 cool toys rolled into one )

Gracias.

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#105672 - 17/07/2002 19:14 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: Mach]
mrfixit
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Registered: 14/06/2002
Posts: 337
You mean like this? See attached.


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#105673 - 17/07/2002 19:18 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: mrfixit]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
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Loc: Texas, USA
Yah, something like that. I didn't think anyone was making them yet? Please share the pertinent details if you know different.

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#105674 - 17/07/2002 19:25 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: Mach]
mrfixit
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Registered: 14/06/2002
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I wish I could, I got that from another post, it was a prototype "beaker" came up with too bad he wasnt able to make any it looked great.
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#105675 - 18/07/2002 04:10 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: mrfixit]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

You could always try the solution that Neo_to_Rio did a while back for his Boxster S. Use chrome or brushed aluminum instead of the flat black.
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#105676 - 18/07/2002 04:14 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: mrfixit]
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
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Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Yeah, if those where to become available, I guess DarkStorm would experience a considerable demand for matching lenses (especially those neon lenses) shortly after that. I only wish it would happen.

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sven
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#105677 - 18/07/2002 06:57 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: Mach]
Magnus
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Registered: 15/05/2002
Posts: 16
Loc: Tampa, Florida
Having recently installed my own Empeg in my '67 Mustang, I do have one other possibility for you. Just rip off the knobs, faceplate, and lens. Then permanently mount it and use the remote for everything. Add a pony for your static image and you're all set. I put mine behind some tinted plexiglass using the original chrome bezel and it hides it pretty well. Of course I've got to use a laptop to upload anything now, but I think it blends a little better than just sticking it in with the original faceplate.

Really bad initial pictures are on my machine here:
http://24.160.147.109/car/67/

-Dave
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#105678 - 18/07/2002 11:47 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: Magnus]
EDub
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Registered: 23/04/2002
Posts: 51
You could always take off the faceplate and use chrome spray paint...cheezy but I've seen some chrome things sprayed which looked pretty good.

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#105679 - 18/07/2002 17:30 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: Mach]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I'm going to play with some more ideas akin to Neo_to_Rio and Magnus' setup.

Let the mod'ing begin.

Thanks.

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#105680 - 18/07/2002 20:34 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: Mach]
jets
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Registered: 08/07/2002
Posts: 237
Loc: Toronto, Canada
i found a product that will basically chrome anything. only problem is that its expensive.

inqiure at http://www.caswellplating.com/ about it. i was really close to buying it for something else but then i bought a riocar.
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#105681 - 19/07/2002 07:01 Re: Chrome buttons...heck, chrome fascia? [Re: jets]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
I tried the electroless plating kit from caswell... but you basically had to have a coating of metal on the part before it would work.... so my solution was to use metal powders on the custom cast fascia's I'd molded.... to make a long story short... worked great on the handle... but the plastic fascia expanded during the plating process (it's almost boiling water)... so I'm still trying to find a way to cast the fascia with a material that wont expand or contract during the heat of the plating process... also... a better way to get a metal coating on the outside to plate... the powder works... but poorly
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#105682 - 16/05/2003 21:35 Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
10 months later, the chrome fascia is a done deal (with the assistance of 303's polished aluminum fascia). Many thanks to 303 and also Mr. Lord for the excellent dock. (That's faux leather laminate on the dock.)



The chrome handle is on loan to Casting_fool but should look very good with the fascia.


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Edited by Mach (16/05/2003 21:38)

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#105683 - 16/05/2003 22:38 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
tfabris
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Two words. Suh wheet.
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#105684 - 17/05/2003 05:04 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: tfabris]
foxtrot_xray
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Registered: 03/03/2002
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Second that.. the black dock makes the chrome just stand out.. Good work.

Me.
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#105685 - 18/05/2003 23:07 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: foxtrot_xray]
qbasic309
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Registered: 23/10/2002
Posts: 110
el magnifico!


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#105686 - 19/05/2003 09:39 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
xanatos
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Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
Beautiful! That would look good in just about ANY car.

I really need to get one of those new fascias!
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#105687 - 19/05/2003 10:32 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
puckalicious
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 171
I think that is the first "empeg in action" pic I have seen playing a song that I actually have in my collection.
Very cool looking face.

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#105688 - 19/05/2003 10:50 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
So that is actual chromium plating over polished aluminum?

Stu
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#105689 - 20/05/2003 18:45 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: maczrool]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
I believe it is actually 3 coatings. One after another, copper, nickel and then chromium.

Thank to everyone for the comments. I only hope it looks as good in the car.

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#105690 - 20/05/2003 19:24 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
Where did you have it done?

I had an aluminum fuel door plated and was not impressed. They gave it to me covered in buffing compound and general filth. I brought it home and washed it off and discovered that not only was the finish somewhat textured like orange peel on poor paint finishes, but the chrome had been buffed through to the nickel plating underneath in many places.

Stu
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#105691 - 20/05/2003 21:07 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: maczrool]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
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Loc: Texas, USA
A place in Jeanette, PA but I've had parts chromed in Houston previously and never had a problem like you are describing. That's who chromed my Empeg handle plus parts for the fold down seat in my Mustang.

Not sure what the shop you encountered did but they're supposed to layer on the copper to fill pits and also use a copper paste for fill if the pitting is too bad. Then they lay down nickel (for hardness I believe) and then thin layers of chromium. It sounds like your was quickly dipped in all three. The heads on the screws of the fascia were lightly chromed. It took all of 15 minutes to dip from copper/rinse/nickel/rinse/chrome/rinse but they look great.

Call a cycle shop or stop by one and look at the custom bikes. These guys chrome everything. The owners should be able to help you find a reputable shop.

Where are you at in LA? I used to live in N.O. and can ask some friends for a recommendation for a chrome shop.


Edited by Mach (20/05/2003 21:26)

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#105692 - 21/05/2003 08:03 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Thanks. I'm in the New Orleans area, well actually Mandeville, but close enough. The place I went to was in Folsom and charged $35. I thought that was a little low, and now I think it was. I don't even know if another shop can strip that job off now that's on there.

Stu
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#105693 - 22/05/2003 22:12 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: maczrool]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
This is what I got back

Epco has the best reputation, and the highest prices.

If you want Pot metal chromed, (die cast), I believe the only place that does it (locally) is Gretna Plating, and you may wait a year and give your first born, or pay a pittance and have them next week. He works alone, and does a lot of Motorcycle work. I would send it out or buy new next time.

Plating Steel, brass, or copper, I recommend Zitos near Jesuit High School in Mid-City.

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#105694 - 23/05/2003 08:19 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: Mach]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Thanks! So do you think any of those will do aluminium?

Stu
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#105695 - 23/05/2003 08:57 Re: Chrome Fascia...finally. [Re: maczrool]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
They should be able to but give them a shout and describe the problem. No one I've dealt with flinched at the aluminum but removing the bungled job may be an issue.

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