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#115094 - 06/09/2002 15:51 Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)?
papinist
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Hi all
I want to know what type of 2.5" hard drive the empeg has inside: I have see in a shop two type of hard drive for notebook, one small and the other even smaller, about an half cm height. Is this smallest type used in it?

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#115095 - 06/09/2002 15:53 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: papinist]
wfaulk
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The maximum height is listed in the Drive Upgrade FAQ. 19.5mm for the Mk2/Mk2a and 14mm for the Mk1.
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#115096 - 06/09/2002 15:55 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: papinist]
BartDG
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From the Empeg's harddisk upgrade FAQ on riocar.org :

"For the empeg Mark 1, the drive must be no taller than 14 millimeters. For the empeg Mark 2 and the Rio Car, the drive must be no taller than 19.5 millimeters."

Edit : Damn, beaten again. Oh well, for once it wasn't by Tony.


Edited by Archeon (06/09/2002 15:57)
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#115097 - 06/09/2002 19:15 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: BartDG]
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Thanks, I saw the statement in the FAQ, but I don't know if the 'big' and the 'small' 2.5" drive have the same electrical specs and usages.
These two types are all identical, except for the height?
Can I put in my Empeg one 'big' and one 'small'?
Of which type is the disk drive inside the Empeg?

Thanks again
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#115098 - 06/09/2002 19:57 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: papinist]
tfabris
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one small and the other even smaller, about an half cm height.

I think the one that was about half-cm tall wasn't a 2.5" notebook IDE drive. It was probably a PCMCIA-card drive, not a 2.5" IDE drive.

Why would you want to use a PCMCIA-card drive in your empeg, when the 2.5" drives are cheaper per gigabyte, and you can get them in larger storage capacities.
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#115099 - 07/09/2002 10:21 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
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Because I got two of them for free, two Fujitsu 10gb and 15gb size
Is it possible to fit them into the empeg?
(I assume then that it has the 'larger' one)
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#115100 - 07/09/2002 21:26 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: papinist]
tfabris
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Is it possible to fit them into the empeg?

If they are PCMCIA cards, I don't think so, although I'm not sure about that.

It's hard to tell from your description exactly what it is you've got. Could you describe them in more detail, perhaps with model numbers and dimensions?
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#115101 - 08/09/2002 08:28 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
rexkp
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I don't think PCMCIA cards are in the 10-15GB range yet, nor are 1.8" IDE drives.

However, a 1.8" IDE drive should electrically plug right in to an empeg and a PCMCIA drive should work with a simple adapter. PCMCIA (for hard drives) is just a superset of IDE. Never seen a 2.5" style IDE to PCMCIA cable though. (3.5" yes.)

That said, there is of course little point. Unless the drives were free :-)

Cheers,

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#115102 - 08/09/2002 11:08 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: rexkp]
tfabris
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I didn't know there was a such thing as a 1.8" IDE drive.
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#115103 - 08/09/2002 11:16 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
mtempsch
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The 1.8" drives are, for instance, used in the iPods.

/Michael
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#115104 - 08/09/2002 11:22 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
rexkp
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They are rare but exist. I have a few here. Basically a PCMCIA drive with a different connector. Mostly used in embedded systems.

1.3" IDE drives exist too though I think that was only the HP KittyHawk. Got a few of those also, tiny, in both size and capacity (20 and 40MB.)

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#115105 - 08/09/2002 11:23 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: mtempsch]
tfabris
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I thought the iPods used the same internals as the PCMCIA drives did.
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#115106 - 08/09/2002 12:13 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
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They do. Which are 1.8" drives.
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#115107 - 08/09/2002 12:21 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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I see. All clear now. PCMCIA==1.8" drives in a PCMCIA housing/interface.
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#115108 - 10/09/2002 16:23 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
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I have no access to it now, but tomorrow I will go to my friend and note dimensions and model no.

Thanks
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#115109 - 12/09/2002 15:24 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: papinist]
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Here is an image of the two drives; I am not good to take measures 'on the fly', so they are 1cm in height, not 0,5

Label say: Fujitsu model MHN2150AT on one and MHN2100AT on the other.


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#115110 - 12/09/2002 15:30 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: papinist]
tfabris
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Those look like ordinary laptop drives to me. Since they're not a slim as you originally stated, this whole thread has been a wild goose chase.

Those are probably fine and will work in the player just fine, assuming the drives are good (one tends to get what one pays for, you know. ).
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#115111 - 13/09/2002 16:32 Re: Hard disk type (slim/slimmest)? [Re: tfabris]
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You're right , but when at first I saw the drives, they seem to me that was slimmer than other 2.5" drives...

I think the drives are ok, they was originally ordered for a guy with a laptop that later doesn't want anymore. So they stayed in a shop for a long time unused...
Actually I don't get them for free, I think I will pay about 30 euros

Thanks
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