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#147136 - 18/03/2003 08:38 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: bodybag]
Chuck
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Registered: 06/06/2001
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You have to do each drive seperately, so I have a rule for each drive. Here are the ones I use for the Drive0 folder, just change the Drive0 to Drive1 to do the other drive on a dual drive Empeg.

The rules for the source Empeg have these options (This syncs the PC to the source Empeg):
Location1: E:\Empeg Backup\Drive0  (This is the PC)

Location2: 192.168.0.100/drive0 (This is the Source Empeg)
Only on Loc1 -- Delete from Loc1
Newer on Loc1 -- No Transfer
Same on Both -- No Transfer
Newer on Loc2 <- Loc1
Only on Loc2 <- Loc1

The rules for the destination Empeg have these options (This syncs the the destination Empeg to the PC):
Location1: E:\Empeg Backup\Drive0  (This is the PC)

Location2: 192.168.0.200/drive0 (This is the Backup Empeg)
Only on Loc1 -> Loc2
Newer on Loc1 -> Loc2
Same on Both -- No Transfer
Newer on Loc2 -- No Transfer
Only on Loc2 -- Delete from Loc2

When copying files to the Empeg, you'll have to issue a 'RW' command in order to write to the drives. You can do that through hyperterminal, with the WS_FTP client, or with CharcoalGray's web interface. You will not be able to write to the drives until that is done, so you could do a test run if you want to make sure things are correct before making any real changes. After you're done writing to the drives, issue a 'RO' command to put them back to read only mode.

If you want the destination Empeg to have any different configuration options (the name, IP address etc) then edit the 'config.ini' file on the PC located in 'E:\Empeg Backup\Drive0\var' with something that will save the config.ini in the proper Unix file format. Don't use NotePad, use something like TextPad or UltraEdit32.

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#147137 - 18/03/2003 12:29 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: Chuck]
bodybag
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Registered: 07/03/2002
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Loc: Southern California
Chuck,

Where are you putting those "rules" or "options". My version of WS_FTP has some options in the Synchronise dialog box, but they aren't the same as the ones you've mentioned. Am I supposed to code those in somewhere? If so, where? I already sync'd drive0 and drive1 onto my PC using no rules, but I assume that is Ok considering it was the first time and it was actually just making a copy. Now I'm trying to sync another player with the files if got on the PC so I want to make sure things don't go sour! Also, where do I issue the RW command in WS_FTP? Thanks for your help to this point, I'm sure I'll have this figured out shortly.
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#147138 - 18/03/2003 12:51 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: bodybag]
Chuck
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I use the WS_FTP Synchronize Utility (It came with WS_FTP 7.62 Pro). Attached is a pic of it so you can see the rules.

If the RW command is not sent to the player your going write to (or test) then no actual changes will be made because the drives are in Read-Only mode. To send the RW command with WS_FTP:

1. Right Click on the remote system pane
2. Chose Operations for the pop-up menu
3. Chose FTP Commands
4. Chose SITE
5. Enter RW in the pop-up window
6 Click OK

Remember to put the drives back in Read-Only mode after writing to them by doing the same steps as above, but use RO instead of RW in step 5.


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#147139 - 18/03/2003 13:13 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: Chuck]
bodybag
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Ahhhh.... My version is 7.04 and the window looks completely different. I'll see if I can get an upgrade to 7.62 and set it up like you have it. Thanks a bunch for your time.

Steve
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#147140 - 18/03/2003 13:54 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: bodybag]
bodybag
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Up and Running! Got WS_FTP 7.6 and as I type, I'm sync'ing one of my "Slave" players.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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#147141 - 18/03/2003 14:09 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: bodybag]
Chuck
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No problem at all. Remember that all the settings in the config.ini are copied if you didn't change them.

-Chuck.

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#147142 - 18/03/2003 14:15 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: Chuck]
bodybag
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Oh [censored].. I forgot that part. Can't be much of a mess right? Do EQ settings change with the config.ini? That's all I'm really concerned with. The other stuff should be easy to put back with Emplode.
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#147143 - 18/03/2003 14:28 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: bodybag]
tfabris
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Do EQ settings change with the config.ini?
No, they are stored on the scratch partition. Instructions for backing up the scratch partition are in the FAQ here. Personally, I find it easier just to keep my EQ settings written down on a scrap of paper...
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#147144 - 18/03/2003 14:31 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Loc: Columbus, OH
Eww...paper is SOOO last millenium. At least put them in your palm pilot.
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#147145 - 18/03/2003 14:36 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: JBjorgen]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Paper doesn't require batteries.
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#147146 - 18/03/2003 14:48 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: tfabris]
Chuck
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I wasn't going to mention the dynamic data partition until he got a handle on the FTP sync.

-Chuck

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#147147 - 18/03/2003 14:51 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: bodybag]
Chuck
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Registered: 06/06/2001
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Nah, you didn't do any damage. Just don't plug both of them in via ethernet at the same time, as they'll have the same name and address.

-Chuck

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#147148 - 18/03/2003 15:28 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: wfaulk]
JBjorgen
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Paper doesn't require batteries.

And bits don't fade and fall apart, even after the hardware they were originally stored on is long dead.
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#147149 - 18/03/2003 18:31 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: JBjorgen]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
They did on my Palm, when the batteries died. Of course, I seldom sync'ed it, so that could have saved me, but it didn't.
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#147150 - 18/03/2003 18:44 Re: Better system for backing up/cloning Empegs. [Re: JBjorgen]
tanstaafl.
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And bits don't fade and fall apart, even after the hardware they were originally stored on is long dead.

I guess you've never stored your data on tape...

tanstaafl.
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