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#149776 - 22/03/2003 22:19 Viruses and the empeg
mrfixit enthusiast Registered: 14/06/2002 Posts: 337	I'm not shure if I should post this in general, but I was wondering if you got a virus on your pc could it be transfered to the empeg? I found the W32.opaserv virus on my pc and wondered if it could hurt the empeg, or if it could be transfered from one pc to another through the empeg. _________________________ Ben mk2a 60gig green/Greenlights Buttons mk2a 60gig green/Greenlights Buttons mk2a 40gig blue no illumination....yet hijacked
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#149777 - 22/03/2003 22:20 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: mrfixit]
tonyc carpal tunnel Registered: 27/06/1999 Posts: 7058 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	I'm not shure if I should post this in general, but I was wondering if you got a virus on your pc could it be transfered to the empeg? I found the W32.opaserv virus on my pc and wondered if it could hurt the empeg, or if it could be transfered from one pc to another through the empeg. The empeg utilizes the Linux operating system. Windows viruses have no effect on Linux. So you're safe. _________________________ - Tony C my empeg stuff
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#149778 - 22/03/2003 22:27 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: tonyc]
mrfixit enthusiast Registered: 14/06/2002 Posts: 337	Thats kinda what I figured since it has a different os, but just wanted to make shure... thanks _________________________ Ben mk2a 60gig green/Greenlights Buttons mk2a 60gig green/Greenlights Buttons mk2a 40gig blue no illumination....yet hijacked
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#149779 - 22/03/2003 22:53 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: tonyc]
drakino carpal tunnel Registered: 08/06/1999 Posts: 7868	Windows viruses have no effect on Linux. So you're safe. Unless your an admin that for some reason has a root partition of a Unix box mapped to a Windows drive letter, and get hit with one of the viruses that try to infect everything. Sufice it to say, the guys unix box wasn't doing so well with random windows code injected into about everything. But on the empeg front, since it never is directly connected as a hard drive, there is no rish of a virus even being able to corrupt something vital on the empeg. I'm also pretty sure unlike other media players, the empeg player won't execute code snuck into MP3 and other media files.
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#149780 - 23/03/2003 04:30 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: drakino]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	And besides, the processor in the Empeg is a StrongARM so it wouldn't even be able to run Windows viruses. - Trevor
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#149781 - 23/03/2003 09:34 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: tonyc]
Daria carpal tunnel Registered: 24/01/2002 Posts: 3937 Loc: Providence, RI	Wandering off into "not even vaguely addressing the question" land: It's been (not widely) reported, but of course Linux viruses are always a possibility. Still, the (weak) defense here would be no one bothering to attempt them for anything other than i386.
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#149782 - 23/03/2003 12:17 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: Daria]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31600 Loc: Seattle, WA	Last night, I was about to post something along these lines (rarity of ARM-specific viruses), then it occurred to me that someone might take that as a challenge... _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#149783 - 23/03/2003 12:33 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: tfabris]
Daria carpal tunnel Registered: 24/01/2002 Posts: 3937 Loc: Providence, RI	I always take "can't" as a challenge. "You can't do X." typically means "we don't allow you to do X." Tough.
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#149784 - 23/03/2003 20:29 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: drakino]
lectric pooh-bah Registered: 20/01/2002 Posts: 2085 Loc: New Orleans, LA	I'm also pretty sure unlike other media players, the empeg player won't execute code snuck into MP3 and other media files. Crap. I guess my virus scans are going to start taking significantly longer to complete now.
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#149785 - 24/03/2003 08:32 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: Daria]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	Still, the (weak) defense here would be no one bothering to attempt them for anything other than i386. The real defense is that it is trivial in Unix to be a superuser for tiny periods of time and run only one or two processes while doing it. Windows often forces you to be a superuser for extended amounts of time, and, in fact, it is often vastly easier to do even simple things as a superuser than bothering to set up your security correctly, especially for a home user, since Windows' initial security settings are a joke. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#149786 - 25/03/2003 08:27 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: wfaulk]
TigerJimmy old hand Registered: 15/02/2002 Posts: 1049	This is an excellent point. I'm a pretty good UNIX sysadmin and think my systems have good security and procedures. On my home Windoze XP machine, I run as an Administrator user all the time because its such a PITA to do it any other way. I have a UNIX firewall keeping the insecure piece of dung relatively safe, but I don't put anything important on it.
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#149787 - 25/03/2003 09:47 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: TigerJimmy]
Yang addict Registered: 14/01/2002 Posts: 443 Loc: Raleigh, NC	I throw caution to the wind and don't even run anti-virus software.. ;o I prefer to look at any kind of serious system failures as a good excuse to reformat the drive and reinstall everything anyway.. It also helps to not have any data that's worth anything to begin with..
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#149788 - 25/03/2003 09:56 Re: Viruses and the empeg [Re: Yang]
mtempsch pooh-bah Registered: 02/06/2000 Posts: 1996 Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden	... don't even run anti-virus software ... helps to not have any data that's worth anything Well, if you're on broadband you might want to consider that your unprotected machine can be used to target others... (cracking, spam, DDoS etc) /Michael _________________________ /Michael
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