#150905 - 26/03/2003 11:06
Whats Wrong With My Internet?
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Loc: Petaluma, CA
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I've been having major problems with my internet for the last 2 days. I have comcast (aka attbi) as of right now im basically stuck on the forum, I get X's on all gfx linked from other sources, and when i click any links i get nothin. I have 5 computers on my network, and all of them cant access any sites including this forum. But all of them can Connect to aim, email, ftp, and mirc. Its only http stuff, and i had the forum open from last nite and never closed it, but i tihnk once i close it it work worth either? Any Ideas?
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#150906 - 26/03/2003 11:10
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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I've been having major problems with my internet for the last 2 days. I have comcast I think I found the problem.
FWIW I'm a Comcast user myself and I haven't had this problem. But I'm 3000 miles away, and not part of the "Old AT&T" network.
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#150907 - 26/03/2003 11:11
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: justinlarsen]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
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The most likely cause sounds like a problem with your DNS server(s).
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#150908 - 26/03/2003 11:15
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: andy]
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Loc: Petaluma, CA
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ya i was thinking dns, but it really throws me in a loop, becuase it goes off and on, and as of right now My mac which is on the wireless LANworks fine, but my 2 windows boxes and my linux box has nothing. (Yes i restarted the router, and yes i restarted my cable modem) Should i call the moron at comcast? ussually anytime i call them with any problems other than the obvious they have no clue what to do, and never send me to a higher tech support.
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#150909 - 26/03/2003 11:20
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: justinlarsen]
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
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[Long shot]
I have a DLink router in my possession that does not work with Orinoco cards when WEP is enabled. It doesn't flat-out not work. It simply behaves strangely (a lot like you're describing). I had an email dicussion about it with a senior level Dlink tech and he bacically told me that I should buy non-Orinoco cards.
You mentioned that you have a wireless lan. I would try disabling WEP if the machines that are giving you problems are wireless.
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#150910 - 26/03/2003 12:12
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: robricc]
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Registered: 20/05/2001
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I have a DLink router in my possession that does not work with Orinoco cards when WEP is enabled. It doesn't flat-out not work. It simply behaves strangely (a lot like you're describing). I had an email dicussion about it with a senior level Dlink tech and he bacically told me that I should buy non-Orinoco cards.
Though this might not solve Justin's problem, it does solve one I had.
See, last month I bought a new laptop, with an internal 802.11b card. It's also an Orinocco card. And I can't for the life of me get it to work with my US Robotics wireless router when WEP is enabled. The thing connects, but it looses it's connection about half a minute later.
So, the problem is with the Orinocco card? Hmmm, I had my suspicions, since it doesn't comply to the WiFi standard. Guess those suspicions are now confirmed.
Thanks Rob !
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#150911 - 26/03/2003 12:44
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: BartDG]
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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well i got it working empaly again, but its been working for months apon months. The wifi connection works fine thou, and its an apple airport card which is an orinoco card rebraded (i think) im going to clean my router and try getting a new ip address from the dhcp server and try that.
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#150912 - 26/03/2003 12:50
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: justinlarsen]
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I think i might have partially found the problem, Ive has the same ip address for almost 5 months now, and im not supposed to have static ip, so im curious if someone is trying to get that same ip now, for some reason my router wont grab a differnt ip no matter how hard i try, i just reflashed it and it still grabs the same one, but when i plug the cable in directly to a computer it grabs a differnt one all together. so whenever i restart myrouter i have http for about 20min or so, then http goes bye bye. FYI i have a netgear mr314 wireless router.
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#150913 - 26/03/2003 12:52
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Your ISP's address assigner probably detects that it's the same box being plugged in and tries to give it the same IP address each time.
I don't think that's the problem.
Do you have the problem if you avoid your router?
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#150914 - 26/03/2003 13:06
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: wfaulk]
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i did have the problem if i avoid the router, it gives me an ip address, but once i get that http is still done. but if i do an ipconfig /release then /renew, internet is back in action.
Edited by justinlarsen (26/03/2003 13:10)
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#150915 - 26/03/2003 13:16
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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But only for a while, right? There's something wrong with your ISP. Call support.
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#150916 - 26/03/2003 13:33
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: BartDG]
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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So, the problem is with the Orinocco card? Hmmm, I had my suspicions, since it doesn't comply to the WiFi standard. I would say the USR router is much more likely to be non-compliant than the Orinoco card. Those Orinoco cards have been around since the 1990s and most of the new ones I get have the Wi-Fi logo on them. I use Orinoco exclusively because I think they give the best price/performance/quality ratio.
I will try to dig up that email conversation when I get home. I think it might say it's confidential. If it does, I will just make comments about it.
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#150917 - 26/03/2003 14:14
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: robricc]
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Registered: 20/05/2001
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The USR is WiFi certified, so I don't think that is the problem.
I can't check for the Orinocco card without opening the laptop up (which I'm not going to do for warranty purposes), but I haven't read anything in any document about it being WiFi compatible.
I hope it is though, because that would mean there's another reason why I'm not able to keep a WEP key-enabled connection going. OTOH, I have absolutely no idea what it could be then.
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#150918 - 26/03/2003 14:27
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: BartDG]
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Well, for me, I would have to blame the D-Link router. I've personally owned wireless routers and/or access points from SMC, Linksys, Netgear, Siemens, and other D-Links. This particular one is the only one to give me trouble as far as WEP goes.
My laptop has a Mini-PCI Wi-Fi card from Orinoco that I installed. I'm not sure if the card it's supposed to come with was Orinoco, so I ordered the laptop witout the card installed just so I could be sure I was getting Orinoco.
By the way, a quote from Orinoco's site: The ORiNOCO PC Card is interoperable with other manufacturers high-speed IEEE 802.11b compliant systems and is fully compliant with the WECA (Wireless Ethernet Compatibility Alliance) Wi-Fi 'wireless fidelity' standard.
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#150919 - 26/03/2003 14:44
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
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Registered: 20/05/2001
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Loc: Bruges, Belgium
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My laptop has a Mini-PCI Wi-Fi card from Orinoco that I installed
I bet it's the same card as in my laptop. It's also one of those mini-PCI cards.
Is your laptop an Acer by any chance? (though no doubt those cards have ended up in many a laptop series)
For now this hasn't given me any problems. I bet I'm one of the only people for miles around here that actually has wireless ethernet, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of my neighbours one day finds out that he can easily tap into my network. Needless to say, this would be a Bad Thing.
If I can't get WEP to work, I might try using MAC-address restrictions. The USR also supports this.
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#150920 - 26/03/2003 14:54
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: BartDG]
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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Is your laptop an Acer by any chance? Dell Latitude X200
EDIT: This laptop is also sold as the Gateway 200 series and the Samsung Q10 (Samsung is the OEM).
Edited by robricc (26/03/2003 14:55)
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#150921 - 27/03/2003 05:09
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
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I thought something was odd. Tony, can you please reboot the internet?
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#150922 - 27/03/2003 06:34
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: robricc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/05/2001
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Loc: Bruges, Belgium
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Dell Latitude X200
Nice machine!
Your data and a bit of reading around on the web has shown me that I was right in my thinking : the Orinocco line of cards has been implemented in MANY differend brands of laptops. They're practically a standard of their own.
As to why I can't seem to establish and keep a connection using WEP, I'm totally puzzled now...
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#150923 - 27/03/2003 08:50
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: BartDG]
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Registered: 09/08/2000
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Are you using WEP for security reasons? And you get connectivity issues when using WEP?
Then disable it. WEP offers negligible security - attacks against it are trivial (and automated.) MAC address ACL's are also pretty trivial to defeat with a card which allows you to configure MAC address (most do these days.)
Go for something like IPSec or Kerberos (in fact Symbol 802.11 has Kerberos integrated - kewl) or newer kit with TKIP and TLS.
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#150924 - 27/03/2003 11:49
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: muzza]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Tony, can you please reboot the internet? Did. Twice. Brotha's got a router problem.
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#150925 - 28/03/2003 13:40
Re: Whats Wrong With My Internet?
[Re: tfabris]
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I think it was an IP problem, it keep assigning me the same ip, and woudl boot me. i spoofed my mains machines mac address and gave me a new ip. works great now
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