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#166192 - 17/06/2003 18:17 Emplode synch. Problem
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
I tried to upload a few songs with JEmplde, but unfortunaly something wenn't wrong: After a Time I got a Java.IO.Exception; synchronise with JEmpled wasn't possible anymore. (I accidently uploaded a mpg file, maybe thsi was the case)
I then tried Emplode and Emplode told me, that the last synchronisation wennt wrong and has to be repeated. I agreed, but after a while Emplode took 100% CPU usage and then brouht a "Connection timed out" error message you see in the Picture, I've posted...
This happens all the time, restart of my PC and the Player didn't solve the Problem...

So is there some way to fix this without losing the Data on it or reFlashing the Players Software?

Any ideas?

thanx,
/steven


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#166193 - 17/06/2003 20:57 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
1. Which version of Emplode are you using?

2. Did you add any third party programs to your player such as GPSapp or Emphatic? Please see this FAQ entry for how to fix it and prevent it from happening again.
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#166194 - 18/06/2003 08:51 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: tfabris]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
1. I use Emplode 2.0-beta13
2. No I didn't add 3rd party programs, except hijack

I followed the steps in the FAQ entry, but it after reboot the Problem seemst to stay and it did'n solve the Problem: I get the same warning in emplode...


I pastet the last reboot here and -because of many text- attached the log file of the whole hyperterminal session...

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empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux................................... done, booting the kernel.

Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg51-hijack-v299 ([email protected]) (gcc ve
rsion 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Tue Oct 1 10:38:47 EDT 2002
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102683)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15072k/16M available (928k code, 20k reserved, 360k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005d80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:0a:7
b
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k init
empeg-preinit starting...
empeg-preinit: mkprgpt: type 'm' not defined
empeg-preinit complete
empeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard diskStarting player

khttpd: listening on port 80
kftpd: listening on port 21
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta13 2002/07/24.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 24 2002
Vcb: 0x4086d000
! mp3_decoder.cpp :1049:Failed to find valid sync after seeking to offset 2207
661, error=0xc0044000
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#166195 - 18/06/2003 09:44 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
1. I use Emplode 2.0-beta13
There is a newer version available. Please switch to 2.0 final and see if that fixes your problem.

Make sure to upgrade both emplode and the player software to 2.0 final.
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#166196 - 18/06/2003 11:48 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: tfabris]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
Updated Emplode & Car Software: Same Problem, but now Emplde Crashes after displaying the "sync. error while writing playlist" *g*

Any other suggestions? -I'm getting a little afraid by now...

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#166197 - 18/06/2003 11:51 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
I just noticed this.

Is your DJSA-210 on standoff washers?
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#166198 - 18/06/2003 11:59 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: tfabris]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland

Is your DJSA-210 on standoff washers?


What do you mean with this? The HD is standard (didn't upgrade or replace it) and everything worked before...


Edited by cloud7 (18/06/2003 12:01)

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#166199 - 18/06/2003 12:07 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Read the Drive Upgrade Guide and search for ``washer''.
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#166200 - 18/06/2003 13:03 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: wfaulk]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
hmmm... ok. But I still guess this isn't the Problem because it aperd just after I used the JEmplode tool to synchronise...

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#166201 - 18/06/2003 13:35 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
But I still guess this isn't the Problem because it aperd just after I used the JEmplode tool to synchronise...
That might just be a coincidence. Which version of Jemplode was it again?

And...

See if doing this fixes it.
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#166202 - 19/06/2003 15:07 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: tfabris]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
It was JEmplode 2.0b11...

After I did the steps in your 2nd FAQ suggestion I can Upload again, but it takes awfully long :
"Uploading Tunes": 4 min(!) for a 3MB file over ethernet
"Rebuliding Database": about 8 minutes
"Remounting Disks": 15 minutes
=about an half an hour for a single file upload over ethernet... :-(
-I also noticed, that the Proccesses seems to stop in the middle, -the Progress Bar doesn't continuesly go; it jumps to the middle-, waits a long time (there is HD activity at the Player, thouh) and then jumps to the end.
And after "Restarting Player" / "Initializing..." Emplode crashes every time... Error message:
Synchronize failed while writing Player configuration.
Connection timed out (error 0x8004003e)


I think it's getting more worse whatever I do... *g*

What would I have to do do delete all and start from the scratch? -Would this definitely solve the Problem?

thanks for your great help all the time! ;-)

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#166203 - 19/06/2003 15:49 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Would this definitely solve the Problem?


Not if the problem were hardware related. Your symptoms sound like there could be physically damaged sectors on the hard drive, and the system tries and retries, sector by sector to write to them, eventually succeeding but taking a long time to do so.

If this is the case, then it may be only a matter of hours before your hard drive fails completely.

I would make a high priority of saving the songs in your player to another computer if you haven't done so.

tanstaafl.
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#166204 - 19/06/2003 17:25 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: tanstaafl.]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
Oh damn...

And why could this (bad sectors) occur? Just in case of uploading some files with JEmplode, which crashed?

Is there a way to fix these sectors? Data loss is no Problem, because it is all on my PC also! ;-)

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#166205 - 19/06/2003 18:13 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Hook up something to the serial port, so that you can watch for messages that may tell you/us what is REALLY wrong. Then, while watching the serial output, perform the sync using ethernet (or USB).

If the problem is due to a bad drive, you will see LOTS of error messages from the IDE driver indicating such. Otherwise, you will not.

Cheers

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#166206 - 19/06/2003 19:51 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
=about an half an hour for a single file upload over ethernet... :-(
Have you tried it with USB?

Do you use ethernet for other things, too? Are you sure ethernet is working correctly at all? For instance, do other things on your network work correctly?
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#166207 - 20/06/2003 16:23 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
And why could this (bad sectors) occur?

I'm not saying that this is your problem... but this kind of damage normally occurs when the read/write heads actually touch the disk platter. This can happen if the unit is jarred heavily while the heads are over the disk platter (normally they are parked away from the data area). But it would take a pretty good hit to do this -- these drives are rated at something like 150 G's impact resistance while operating, and 400 G's when turned off.

Listen carefully the next time you are synchronizing. If you hear a repetitive sound, like "CLICK click click (pause) CLICK click click...) that is a good indication that you have mechanical problems with your drive.

This is not the end of the world -- new drives are amazingly cheap, and thanks to Tony's FAQ are easy to install. The data (i.e., music) on the drive is what's valuable.

tanstaafl.
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#166208 - 24/06/2003 07:52 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: mlord]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
Sorry for not writig the past days, but I was away from my station... ;-)

In my confusion the transfer of the songs (but only that) worked well over USB; the "Rebuliding Database" / "Writing Player config." still hangs a long time and then crashes.
And my Network is working fine, there is only my Worksation connected to a switch, wich is connected with a Cablemodem... However, this network Configuration worked fine until I had my JEmplode crash.

I hooked up the player on USB and monitored the serial output, but it is not much and it still seems to hang:

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Adding Swap: 16596k swap-space (priority -1)
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hda4 is mounted.
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Restart code received
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000
-------------------------------

the last line is where emplode crashed...


Edited by cloud7 (24/06/2003 07:54)

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#166209 - 27/06/2003 12:47 Re: Emplode synch. Problem [Re: cloud7]
cloud7
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Registered: 13/08/2002
Posts: 19
Loc: Switzerland
No ideas anymore...?

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