Doh, I was going to post about Car-Toys when I visited them here in the Springs, but I guess I never did. Basically they call all the audio stores in the area of a new store trying to steal installers and sales people, and usually they end up only getting people from Best Buy and such. My favorite store in the area had a few people tempted, but they quickly realized it's better to have a manager who has experience, and other help to assist them then a fancy showroom. And after talking to some of the sales people, they don't know much about any high end equipment. Supposedly the Rockford Smart Media MP3 player can hold as much music as an empeg. Also their prices aren't that great. There is one thing worthwhile about the stores though. They tend to have some nice equipment on display to allow people to see it though, so if you want to see a head unit or subwoofer, head there, then go to your local favorite, or www.crutchfield.com to buy.