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#188763 - 09/11/2003 10:05 Bravo D1
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Anyone have a Bravo D1 DVD player? Curious to hear comments/opinions ... It sounds like the construction leaves a bit to be desired but that the video quality through the DVI out is awesome.

ms

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#188764 - 09/11/2003 10:11 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Hmmm... looks great value for the price. This review seems very favourable.

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#188765 - 11/11/2003 17:19 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
I don't have one, but know a lot of people that do and they LOVE em. Although they had to go through several to get one that didn't freeze up...

- Jon

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#188766 - 11/11/2003 17:21 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: jbauer]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
yikes ... Oh well ... I'm always up for a challenge Mine should come in in a couple days ... I'll post a followup after it does.

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#188767 - 12/11/2003 09:59 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
DLF
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Registered: 24/07/2003
Posts: 500
Loc: Colorado, N.A.
Please do. Seems almost too good to be true, at least for TVs with DVI inputs.
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#188768 - 12/11/2003 12:22 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
The author of the review linked in the first reply to this thread writes the following:

For whatever reason, mainstream manufacturers of DVD players have been unable to recognize that DVI output would be a highly desirable feature on a DVD player.

Well, I suspect the reason is rather simple. They don't want to get their collective asses sued by the MPAA nor the studios for selling a device that comes set up to defeat Macrovision protection, which only works at 480 (i or P). Sure, you'll need a connecting device that takes the DVI input and can pass it back out to an analog output such as S-VIDEO. And, they could restrict the output to 480, something Bravo seems to not have done.

A digital signal out of a DVD player is a rather big thing and happens to be one of the major stumbling blocks for the release of higher definition DVD into the mainstream.

Bruno
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#188769 - 12/12/2003 01:57 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Still on my honeymoon with it, but this just arrived a couple days ago (took forever for it to ship -- I think they're just really backed up with orders).

After upgrading the firmware (kind of cool -- you burn an iso onto a CD and you can then boot the player off the CD to perform the upgrade), I was able to access the custom DVI settings and configure the 1:1 mapping for my HS10 (1368x768). The output looks considerably better than my previous player ... I didn't know what to expect with it, but I must say I'm impressed. The scaler in this thing does a really good job ... I do, however, agree completely with the other reviews that 480p looks like crap. Not sure what they managed to do there, but do not buy this if you're not going to drive a 720p or 1080i HD device (but then, why would you?).

I imagine you can get similar performance out of an HTPC w/ ATI card doing 1:1 also (I haven't tried playing a DVD with mine yet -- just games), but this guy's kind of nice in that it doesn't require a dedicated PC.

So far this is a "highly recommended". Now I need to track down the discrete on/off Pronto codes ... I'll follow-up again after a longer test drive.

Speaking of PC hookups -- Now that I have my DVI switch, I finally have everything hooked up properly, and programming and game playing on the projector is pretty badass. I just need to run digital audio out from my PC to the receiver to be fully prepared for Doom 3

ms

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#188770 - 12/12/2003 10:11 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Have you tried the component outputs? I'd be interested in a product like this, but my HD monitor only has component inputs.
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#188771 - 12/12/2003 10:30 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: wfaulk]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I believe component out is restricted by licensing (I think whoever licenses the DVD algorithms, logo, etc) to a maximum of 480p. That means you step into the crappy output side of the device I mentioned earlier .. I'll double check that though.

ms.

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#188772 - 12/12/2003 10:35 Re: Bravo D1 [Re: mschrag]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
So this is only true if the DVD has Macrovision.

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