I just noticed that firmware 1.25 has been posted on the rioaudio.com site. I've read that it fixes a lot of problems, and makes ethernet work a lot smoother.

Go get it!

Incidentally, release notes are here.

And by the way, may I point out the following in the release notes:

- Incorporated a "Silence filter", which detects an abrupt drop in level within the last fraction of a second of a track, and trims off anything after that. This enables continuous mix albums to play back more smoothly even if they have not been created by an encoder with a "nogap" option.

Passes my Dark Side of the Moon test with flying colors. Can't wait to see it in action on the car player.

That is pretty sweet.

Can't wait to see it in action on the car player.

Exactly!

I actually tried this with dark side too. I have dark side on my hard drive in a bunch of different encodings (wav, cbr mp3, vbr mp3, flac, ogg, lame with nogap, lame without nogap. ripped as one track then separated, ripped as separate tracks, encoded as one file then cut up, etc.), just so I can test what I need to do to my music for different players to play gapless. With the Karma, I didn't have a problem with flac or wav and with the new firmware, didn't have a problem with ogg, or really any of the mp3 versions. I'm really pleased, yet at the same time surprised that this is such a big challenge for other players, and that it's taken this long to make it high enough priority to work around these inherent mp3 limitations.

Excellent news.

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within the last fraction of a second of a track

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Does that mean there is no silence at the first fraction of a second of a track, which would require trimming ?

Ack! Installed 1.25 firmware and 2.4 of RMM- not sure which one is causing this, but it was syncing and it tried to transfer a WMA DRM (which was already loaded on the player) I bought off a website and I got a message "Failed to transfer '<trackname>' to player: Not implemented". Previous firmware/RMM versions had no problems. Anyone else seen this or is it just me?
It looks like it tried to put on a second copy that shows up on the player with a red x in RMM. I think the track's license allows unlimited device transfers.

Installed 1.25 firmware and 2.4 of RMM- not sure which one is causing this, but it was syncing and it tried to transfer a WMA DRM (which was already loaded on the player) I bought off a website and I got a message "Failed to transfer '<trackname>' to player: Not implemented". Previous firmware/RMM versions had no problems. Anyone else seen this or is it just me?

USB or Ethernet? WMA DRM transfers don't currently work over Ethernet.

Peter

This was over ethernet. Now that I think of it I initially transfered these tracks over USB. I guess the only problem then is that RMM thought it needed to be sent to the player when the track was already there unchanged.

WMA DRM transfers don't currently work over Ethernet.

Hmmm.... Does RMM decrypt DRM'd WMAs before sending them to the Karma?

Does RMM decrypt DRM'd WMAs before sending them to the Karma

No, but DRM transfers have to go through WMDM (Microsoft's device interface) and tunnelling that over Ethernet is slightly non-trivial. That said, we know how to do it when we have time.

Rob

... slightly non-trivial.

Now there's a new one. Trivial = relatively slight; non-trivial = slightly more than slight; ipso facto, presto: slightly non-trivial = just-slightly-less-than slightly-more-than slight? Wouldn't the Grammar Police like to weigh in on this?

This is how I use these highly technical terms when describing the complexity of a bit of design or development work.

Trivial:

Easy (though it will still take half a day even though it should take half and hour). I try not to ever quote less than half a day for a piece of work.

Non-trivial:

The exact opposite of trivial, i.e. "It's going to be hard, but I'll do it if you make me, just so long as you know there are better things I could be doing with my life"

Slightly non-trivial:

Depending the tone of my voice when I say it, either: "Just a bit easier than non-trivial" OR "damn near impossible".

English is an odd language.

From the Jargon File:

Trivial
Nontrivial