Unoffical empeg BBS

Quick Links: Empeg FAQ | RioCar.Org | Hijack | BigDisk Builder | jEmplode | emphatic
Repairs: Repairs

Topic Options
#230910 - 16/08/2004 23:57 hard drive not detected
AlfaTard
new poster

Registered: 25/02/2004
Posts: 8
Loc: Austin, TX
Sometimes when I start up my truck I get a message that the drive is not detected and it shows a picture of a penguin with Xs for eyes. This is happening a lot more often as of late and my fear is that the drive is dying. I wasn't able to find a post that addressed this directly so here is my question: Is there a way I can run some kind of diagnostic on the drive or is it safe to assume it's time to find a replacement?

Thank you for your time.
_________________________
unit 010101583

Top
#230911 - 17/08/2004 00:02 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: AlfaTard]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
It's in the FAQ

In brief, it's probably either the IDE cable or the pins on the motherboard which the cable is attached to. They're usually the most likely cause of this but a dead drive could cause it as well.

Top
#230912 - 17/08/2004 00:04 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: AlfaTard]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
The drive is probably fine. This message is usually indicative of the infamous "IDE header" problem, whereby the IDE connector on the mainboard of the Empeg may require resoldering.

Only way to know is to open it up and have a looksee. If you have a laptop computer, you can transfer the drive to it and boot/run the IBM Drive Fitness Test floppy (downloadable from them) to test the drive for impending failures (Assuming IBM; if it's a Fujitsu drive, then something different will be needed).

Cheers

Top
#230913 - 17/08/2004 00:28 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: mlord]
AlfaTard
new poster

Registered: 25/02/2004
Posts: 8
Loc: Austin, TX
The FAQ! Jeez, I guess I shoulda started there instead of searching the boards. Thanks for the heads up! I'll look into it on the morrow.

edit: Damn you guys replied fast. Freaks!


Edited by AlfaTard (17/08/2004 00:29)
_________________________
unit 010101583

Top
#230914 - 17/08/2004 08:14 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: AlfaTard]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Welcome to the wild, wacky world of the empegBBS!
_________________________
Paul Grzelak
200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs

Top
#230915 - 18/08/2004 16:29 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: AlfaTard]
Chao
member

Registered: 01/01/2002
Posts: 144
On a similar subject:

I had to replace the hdd cable on one of my empegs. I've got a 44 pin cable, but the blank where a pinhole (on the motherboard's end) doesn't fit, so I don't wish to drill into it if I don't have to. If I
drilled into it, would the connection matter? Does the extra pin on
the MoBo actually matter?

Also: I'm having the same hdd not detected issue. If the soldering is necessary, is it difficult or self-evident?

Thanks

Top
#230916 - 18/08/2004 16:39 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: Chao]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
I had to replace the hdd cable on one of my empegs. I've got a 44 pin cable, but the blank where a pinhole (on the motherboard's end) doesn't fit, so I don't wish to drill into it if I don't have to.

You need to read the FAQ entry more carefully. From your description, you're clearly just using a cable rummaged from an old PC, perhaps an 80-conductor cable, even. You're missing the part of the FAQ that says:

Quote:
You can't use just any cable; if the length isn't correct, the shock-mount tray might not be free to move properly. The only ways to get a proper replacement are to crimp one yourself, order one from support, or order one from Eutronix.

So, um, there it is.

And anyway, why are you needing to replace the cable? There's pictures of how to fix the loose crimps there.

Quote:
Also: I'm having the same hdd not detected issue. If the soldering is necessary, is it difficult or self-evident?

Again, you're not reading through that FAQ entry carefully. There are very clear photos of the soldering problem, as well as a warning that the soldering is difficult and should only be done by people who have experience doing that kind of thing.
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#230917 - 18/08/2004 16:56 Re: hard drive not detected [Re: tfabris]
Chao
member

Registered: 01/01/2002
Posts: 144
Quote:
You need to read the FAQ entry more carefully. From your description, you're clearly just using a cable rummaged from an old PC, perhaps an 80-conductor cable, even. You're missing the part of the FAQ that says:

Quote:
You can't use just any cable; if the length isn't correct, the shock-mount tray might not be free to move properly. The only ways to get a proper replacement are to crimp one yourself, order one from support, or order one from Eutronix.


Ah, I rummaged up a standard notebook IDE cable from my parts dept. It's a standard 44 pin cable like this
Quote:
And anyway, why are you needing to replace the cable? There's pictures of how to fix the loose crimps there.
I somehow lost the cable in between moving drives from one empeg to another.
Quote:
Again, you're not reading through that FAQ entry carefully.
Sorry, I must have glossed over that. Thanks for the assist

Top