#240600 - 07/11/2004 21:52
What kind of ethernet cable?
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Registered: 15/06/2002
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Guys,
I just got my Empeg, I had one before and sold it earlier this year. What kind of ethernet cable do I need to hook it up to my computer? I can't remember what kind.. I have just a regular one from something else, but it doesn't work, and if I remember correctly, I had to buy a special kind.
Thanks for the help, and I am so glad I got me another Empeg again! I really missed it.
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#240601 - 07/11/2004 21:56
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: Phireman19]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
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If connecting directly to your computer, you need a crossover cable.
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#240602 - 08/11/2004 08:09
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: Phireman19]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/09/1999
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As Rob said, you need a cross-over cable if connecting directly to the computer. But I vaguely remeber having problems connectting directly to some 100Mb/s adapters (and to others not) - link continuity lights were on on both sides, but the beasts did not want to talk. So, if after trying with cross-over cable you still have problems, consider a cheap 10/100 switch or even an ancient 10Mb/s-only hub if you have it in some junk heap (with 'ordinary' cables, of course).
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#240603 - 08/11/2004 11:44
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: bonzi]
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carpal tunnel
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consider a cheap 10/100 switch or even an ancient 10Mb/s-only hub if you have it in some junk heap (with 'ordinary' cables, of course).
Here's a cheap one that has "auto-crossover" support. Plug in either straight-through or crossover, and it will work. Of course, you will need to get another ethernet cable. One from your PC to the switch, and another from the empeg to the switch.
http://www.softwareandstuff.com/NET10257.html
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#240604 - 08/11/2004 16:09
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: robricc]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 13/09/1999
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consider a cheap 10/100 switch or even an ancient 10Mb/s-only hub if you have it in some junk heap (with 'ordinary' cables, of course).
Here's a cheap one that has "auto-crossover" support.
For $12! I still somehow think it is not fair that a thing like this costs less than a decent lunch 
I am sooo old, and will never stop living in deep past, when professional Ethernet installations where done with 10BASE-5 and 'vampire' connectors, this new questionable 10BASE-T used something called 'hubs' (several $k), switches did not exist and routers were more expensive than good cars.
Rob, you have missed a fascinating era of $8k CD burners and, before that, bootstrap loaders entered via front panel switches 
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#240606 - 08/11/2004 16:44
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: robricc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
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I started my music burning habits on a $10k CD-ROM burner. It ran at 2x speed (best case), had DOS based dedicated software, was SCSI connected and could not do disk at once recording (it sucked for live albums or gapless wonders). With blanks almost $20 each, it was an adventure, but great for recording in "Red Book Audio".
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#240607 - 09/11/2004 02:12
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: Phireman19]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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What kind of ethernet cable do I need to hook it up to my computer?
Make sure to read here and here if you have any questions about empeg-PC ethernet connections.
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#240608 - 09/11/2004 08:09
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: bonzi]
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carpal tunnel
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I am sooo old, and will never stop living in deep past, when professional Ethernet installations where done with 10BASE-5 and 'vampire' connectors
I'm not that old, but I do remember 10Base-2 and coax twist connectors. They were a PITA to crimp, as I recall.
I think I've still got about 30 feet of 10Base-2 in a box in the attic somewhere...
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#240609 - 09/11/2004 11:47
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
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I'm not that old, but I do remember 10Base-2 and coax twist connectors. They were a PITA to crimp, as I recall.
Yeah, and if one was mis-crimped, it wasn't that machine that had the flaky connection but one sixty feet along the wire. 10b2 sucked.
Peter
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#240610 - 10/11/2004 00:17
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: peter]
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I got the crossover cable and it works great!
Thanks!
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#240611 - 22/10/2006 04:33
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: robricc]
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Registered: 04/09/2004
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And I remember paying 450.00 USD for a HAYES 2400 baud modem (external) and was the big boy on the block. Of course it was hooked up to 1800.00 worth of Mac Plus and a 30 MEG hard drive!
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#240612 - 22/10/2006 08:17
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: Ladmo]
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Registered: 01/10/2001
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And I remember the 300 baud acoustic coupler modems - anything connected directly to the phone network had to be approved by the local PTT and had to pass national standards.
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#240613 - 22/10/2006 15:32
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: bonzi]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
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I am sooo old, and will never stop living in deep past, when professional Ethernet installations where done with 10BASE-5 and 'vampire' connectors
I only came across vampire connectors back in 2001! It was used to link 2 ends of a building to carry NetBIOS/NetBEUI traffic. They didn't use TCP/IP as they couldn't afford to by licences for a stack on each Windows 3.11 machine.
My first experience with CD-R's was when the discs where a much more reasonable £11 a disc. The machine did run windows but you had to disable the network card and the screensaver to ensure a problem free burn. That said I still have the first disc I ever burnt and it still plays! However there's probably stuff I made 6 months ago that doesn't!
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#240614 - 22/10/2006 16:46
Re: What kind of ethernet cable?
[Re: bonzi]
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I am sooo old, and will never stop living in deep past, when professional Ethernet installations where done with 10BASE-5 and 'vampire' connectors, this new questionable 10BASE-T used something called 'hubs' (several $k), switches did not exist and routers were more expensive than good cars.
Ahh, yes. I remember the first networks we built, with the AT&T 3B2 computers (32-bit!!!) and vaxens - the vaxens had to have ethernet cards with co-procesors, they cost at least 5000 quid... And the wonderful, thick yellow coax cable...
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