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#262498 - 09/08/2005 21:41 Multiple criteria searching
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I feel like I'm being an idiot, but is there a way to search on the empeg by two criteria? Like maybe I want all Grunge from 1992.
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#262499 - 09/08/2005 23:57 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Only in Emplode's advanced search, not on the empeg itself.
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#262500 - 10/08/2005 12:33 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Crud.
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#262501 - 10/08/2005 12:39 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: wfaulk]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
It looks like you can't "hate by" year, so you'd have to search for 1992, find some grunge, keep hitting make-next-match-genre (5) until it fails, and then (if you wanted to wipe out everything else) go through the rest of the running-order "hating" all the other genres (hold-5).

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#262502 - 10/08/2005 12:46 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: peter]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
If you have time to set it up in advance, perhaps a search within a Wendy filter. You would have to set a Wendy filter to match your genre tag, activate the filter and do your search at that point.
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#262503 - 10/08/2005 12:50 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: pgrzelak]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Nah. This was on the fly, and that was just a more real-world example. In actuality, I was trying to find a new album I uploaded that I couldn't remember the name of; jEmplode had done something funky to my artist playlist and I couldn't find it. Add onto that my still-broken semi-readable display and the only thing I could come up with was to search by artist, then narrow by (this) year.

I should really get that display fixed.
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#262504 - 10/08/2005 23:25 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: wfaulk]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
This is the basis of the massive overarching ID3 extension that I wish I could create, called "Attribute Tags". A large set of tags for you to populate by hand, upload to the Attribute Tag server, then allow others to download and have automatically appended to their files using a tagger program.

On my drive home, I would have loved to hear "uptempo" "major key" "funky" "female vocals". Or, rather, press the "similar to" button while listing to Ani Difranco - Hat Shaped Hat. Would have given me all the happy female vocal tracks from genres like Folk, Pop, Ska, Dance (really House), etc.

I should just shut my mouth, quit my job, and dedicate my life to creating this, because that's the only way it's getting done (without hiring a software creating team to create a product that would be free).
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#262505 - 11/08/2005 00:36 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: FireFox31]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Honestly, you could do that with ID3 TCON (Content Type, AKA Genre) tags. I wish that more things supported multiple genres. Or really, just the empeg.
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#262506 - 11/08/2005 01:38 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: wfaulk]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
Yup, the tag space is there. They just need assignment to standard actual attributes, software to write/extract/append them, a server to receive and distribute them, and player software (even if only for the empeg) to use them with enough smarts to allow for variance; with an optional database to intelligently store them.

Someday, somehow...
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#262507 - 12/08/2005 08:26 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: FireFox31]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Wasn't there an application that did something similar (let's call it 'cooperative attributing' or something like that)? I vaguely remember playing with it a few years ago.
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#262508 - 14/08/2005 16:37 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: bonzi]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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There have been other online extended attribute databases. The biggest I can think of is MoodLogic, which, I think, cost money (or earn credits by submitting data?). I read a lot of bad user comments about it and I think it folded, after taking the subscription fees from many users without providing the updates or service that they promised.

The usual, get money involved and you're bound to make someone upset. So, keep it free, and you can do whatever you want (HA, not really, but you can always try to make that claim). Someday......
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#262509 - 14/08/2005 19:46 Re: Multiple criteria searching [Re: FireFox31]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Ah, yes, it was MoodLogic I played with.
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