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#270781 - 28/11/2005 13:47 Shared mailbox
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
Is it possible to set up a mail client on both my work and home PCs that could access the same POP3 account and both stay in synch?

I'm getting ADSL at home so thought I should set up mail too, just don't want another separate mail account.

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#270782 - 28/11/2005 14:07 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
I used to access my pop account from several places, with home being the end-all 'warehouse'. Only there did I allow Eudora to remove the mail from the server.
No sync, though.
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#270783 - 28/11/2005 14:09 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: Robotic]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
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I used to access my pop account from several places, with home being the end-all 'warehouse'. Only there did I allow Eudora to remove the mail from the server.
No sync, though.


The thing is I'm trying to reduce my days at work so I want to have my complete mailbox at both places.

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#270784 - 28/11/2005 14:10 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
It depends what you mean by "in sync". You could leave every message on the POP server and have both clients download everything. But your POP server provider might not like that. That's the only way to be sure that both clients will have the same messages, though. There's no way to set up your POP server to check to see if all of the clients have downloaded the message and then delete it from the server. (I mean, it's technically feasible, but no one's done it.)

A better solution might be to have GMail (or some other mail service) download that POP mail for you.

Personally, I'd set up or find an IMAP server somewhere that could download the mail via POP and re-present it to your two clients.
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#270785 - 28/11/2005 14:12 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
It's not the solution you want, but my solution to this was to set up an IMAP server at home on my Linux box and use fetchmail to check all of my POP3 accounts and deliver the mail to my IMAP server. Then I just check my IMAP server, and since everthing is stored on the server, it's all synchronized for any client I use to check my mail (including my own Webmail setup.) This does mean that you'll want to make sure your home connection is always-on and requires a decent amount of setup on your server at home, but once it's done, I think it's the optimal solution.
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#270786 - 28/11/2005 14:14 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tonyc]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
Thanks guys, so where do I start with IMAP? I've never used it.

And my setup is all Windows


Edited by tahir (28/11/2005 14:15)

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#270787 - 28/11/2005 14:16 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
tonyc
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Well, the first question is what operating system you're running. My IMAP setup is on Linux (specifically Fedora.) I have no experience with IMAP servers on Windows, and wouldn't trust a Windows PC as my one and only email repository.

*Edit* Okay then, my work here is done.


Edited by tonyc (28/11/2005 14:17)
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#270788 - 28/11/2005 14:18 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tonyc]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
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wouldn't trust a Windows PC as my one and only email repository.


We seem to have hit a hitch there then I was thinking of setting up a Linux machine at home as my music server but again I've never set one up before.

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#270789 - 28/11/2005 14:19 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Well, IMAP is an alternative solution to mail delivery. It's sort of a cousin to POP. The big difference in this case is that it keeps all of the mail on the server and your client manipulates the data on the server rather than downloading the messages and manipulating it there. That means that all clients see the exact same set of messages.

The problem with this is that you need an IMAP server that you can connect to, if not all of the time, then a decent amount of the time. So your first question is, is there a computer I have control of on the Internet that I can run a server on?
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#270790 - 28/11/2005 14:41 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: wfaulk]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
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is there a computer I have control of on the Internet that I can run a server on?


Potentially, I'm going to have static IPs at home so that I can VPN to work.

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#270791 - 28/11/2005 16:23 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
wfaulk
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Well, if you were running Unix, I'd know exactly what to do, but on Windows I'm not so sure. I'm sure you can make it happen, but, basically, you want to get an IMAP server up and running and then find (or write) a program that will download your POP mail periodically and insert it into your IMAP server. Neither one should be terribly difficult, but I don't really know where to start on Windows.
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#270792 - 28/11/2005 16:48 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: wfaulk]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
I may well go the Linux route, like I say I may end up running slim server on a linux machine

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#270793 - 29/11/2005 16:31 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
I've done a lot of research into this, and these folks seem to have the best imap server for winders:

MailEnable

However, I've decided that setting up a linux machine and running the imap server on that's a better plan.

Also, I found it sad that the former president of the Unix User's Association of Southern California runs unix on his car stereo only.

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#270794 - 29/11/2005 16:46 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: larry818]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
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MailEnable



$220

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#270795 - 29/11/2005 17:18 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
Quote:
Quote:
MailEnable



$220


Yeah, but it seems most complete, no bogus licensing issues (or alternate revenue streams, ugg...) and easiest to set up. This was important for me 'cos I'd rather spend $220 than spend a few days...

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#270796 - 29/11/2005 17:25 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: larry818]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
So are you using it?

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#270797 - 29/11/2005 18:00 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: tahir]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
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So are you using it?


I'm still undecided. It seems I can spend the $220 and be done with it almost immediately, but I miss running unix and am also reluctant to trust my mail to a winders box (which is what I'm doing now anyway). Also, there are articles written on migrating Mozilla mail back to the imap server and not for this thing. I've just shot them an e-mail askin' if it's possible. If so and it looks easy, probably I'll go with them as I strictly don't have time in my life now to set up a unix box.

Although I am watching your other thread. It seems thangs have gotten easier since I last ran a unix box ten years ago.

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#270798 - 30/11/2005 08:18 Re: Shared mailbox [Re: larry818]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1914
Loc: London
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[It seems I can spend the $220 and be done with it almost immediately


That's a huge attraction, if I had more time on my hands I'd definitely set up a Linux box but you've got me thinking.

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