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#271931 - 11/12/2005 22:00 hard drive death
Daria carpal tunnel Registered: 24/01/2002 Posts: 3937 Loc: Providence, RI	I was going through St Clairsville Ohio last night on I-70 and my hard drive randomly died. I started getting hdb errors, rebooted, and it didn't come back. I can hear it spin up, but it never shows up on the empeg, or on a Mac in a known-good firewire enclosure. Is it worth trying to replace the logic board?
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#271932 - 11/12/2005 22:31 Re: hard drive death [Re: Daria]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Quote: Is it worth trying to replace the logic board? Not really. You'd have to find the exact model and maybe even revision for it to be swappable and even then it probably won't work. You need to get the board from somewhere as well. Do you not have a backup of the contents?
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#271933 - 12/12/2005 03:15 Re: hard drive death [Re: Daria]
Attack addict Registered: 01/03/2002 Posts: 599 Loc: Florida	Quote: Is it worth trying to replace the logic board? I've done this once for one of my drives and maybe 10 other times for friends that had their HD die. It has always been worth it. _________________________ Chad
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#271934 - 12/12/2005 03:44 Re: hard drive death [Re: tman]
Daria carpal tunnel Registered: 24/01/2002 Posts: 3937 Loc: Providence, RI	Quote: Quote: Is it worth trying to replace the logic board? Not really. You'd have to find the exact model and maybe even revision for it to be swappable and even then it probably won't work. You need to get the board from somewhere as well. Do you not have a backup of the contents? There's about a gig (100gb drive, probably 75gb full) which isn't backed up somewhere. None of it is irreplaceable. I need another 100gb drive anyway (to go to 2 100s) so perhaps it's worth ordering one of the same spec to see if it happens to match?
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#271935 - 12/12/2005 03:54 Re: hard drive death [Re: Attack]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	Quote: I've done this once for one of my drives and maybe 10 other times for friends that had their HD die. It has always been worth it. Jeez, how frequently do logic boards fail in disk drives? This surprises me. I mean, I'd expect that the moving parts would be the ones that fail. _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#271936 - 14/12/2005 02:20 Re: hard drive death [Re: tfabris]
FireFox31 pooh-bah Registered: 19/09/2002 Posts: 2494 Loc: East Coast, USA	One of my friends had a whole ocean of Quantum "Leadfoot" (Bigfoot) drives fail because a single chip on their logic board blew. I think they shipped in a certain model of Gateway machine. On the phone with his favorite drive recovery company, he got as far as "Quantum" before they'd finish the sentence "Bigfoot logic board blew". So yes, lots of logic boards die if they have known flaws like that. My old adage that "computer hardware never dies" is occasionally and always mysteriously proven wrong. _________________________ - FireFox31 110gig MKIIa (30+80), Eutronix lights, 32 meg stacked RAM, Filener orange gel lens, Greenlights Lit Buttons green set
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#271937 - 14/12/2005 03:16 Re: hard drive death [Re: tfabris]
Attack addict Registered: 01/03/2002 Posts: 599 Loc: Florida	The first time I tried this was for a 13GB IBM drive. I was moving all my parts to a new case and was tired when trying to connect the power to the drive. The power connector that I tried to use was messed up and I forced it in (DOH). I just new it wasn't going to work at that point. I went to a local dealer and got the same exact drive and the swap worked. Since I own 3 Series 1 SA TiVo's that I upgraded the drive space in, I still had the original drive that I wasn't going to use. Two friends had their TiVo stop working and called me for help. I tested the drive in a PC and it wouldn't work changed the logic board and it would work. Since then I've got a few calls from friends asking me to help their friends fix a dead drive and they all look at me like I'm crazy when I pull the PCB off. Oh do I love that look but that is also because when it works the new look is PRICELESS. _________________________ Chad
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#271938 - 14/12/2005 06:54 Re: hard drive death [Re: Attack]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	Wow. Just... wow. Very cool. _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#271939 - 14/12/2005 14:06 Re: hard drive death [Re: tfabris]
Daria carpal tunnel Registered: 24/01/2002 Posts: 3937 Loc: Providence, RI	Guess what? Logic board swap worked. Same hardware rev, I just ordered the same thing from the same people. Now, I have a perfectly good 100gb drive with a bad logic board. I could RMA but I'd rather just order a logic board. I bet that's hard...
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#271940 - 14/12/2005 14:14 Re: hard drive death [Re: Daria]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	I'm still not seeing the point of swapping the board. You've bought the same drive and now you have 1 broken one and 1 working one after some fiddling. The only point of swapping the logic board would be to recover some vital data IMO.
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#271941 - 14/12/2005 14:35 Re: hard drive death [Re: tman]
Attack addict Registered: 01/03/2002 Posts: 599 Loc: Florida	Quote: I'm still not seeing the point of swapping the board. You've bought the same drive and now you have 1 broken one and 1 working one after some fiddling. 1) Data is critical 2) Time to sync 100 GB of audio on Empeg Make a backup swap the PCB's back and send it back for repair. Restore backup to good drive. _________________________ Chad
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#271942 - 14/12/2005 14:49 Re: hard drive death [Re: Daria]
Attack addict Registered: 01/03/2002 Posts: 599 Loc: Florida	Quote: Guess what? Logic board swap worked. Same hardware rev, I just ordered the same thing from the same people. Now, I have a perfectly good 100gb drive with a bad logic board. I could RMA but I'd rather just order a logic board. I bet that's hard... I'm glad that it worked for you. I never got anywhere when I tried to order just the logic board. Oh and don't try to RMA the new drive with the old PCB they were unhappy with me when I did that.
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#271943 - 14/12/2005 16:47 Re: hard drive death [Re: tman]
Daria carpal tunnel Registered: 24/01/2002 Posts: 3937 Loc: Providence, RI	The point was rather than resyncing all the mp3s (which I had) Inow simply have anempeg-ready image.
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#271944 - 14/12/2005 20:04 Re: hard drive death [Re: Attack]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Quote: The only point of swapping the logic board would be to recover some vital data IMO.
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