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#285467 - 14/08/2006 20:07 Unknown device on laptop
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
I've been given an HP notebook to use for a while at work. Its a Compaq nc6000 and is about 2-3 years old I guess (Pentium M 1.7, 512MB RAM, 40GB HDD) but its never been used. I was sure these models came with built-in wireless but can't seem to see anything in device manager except for one of those yellow question marks next to 'Network Controller'. The driver is missing and nothing I do will get it to obtain it.

Anyone know what this device might be? Could it be the wireless adapter?

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#285468 - 14/08/2006 20:15 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
Posts: 342
Loc: South-West-Germany
Does it have a "centrino" label somewhere? then it's probably the intel pro wireless device. Try downloading the drivers from the intel site...
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#285469 - 14/08/2006 20:15 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
My work has a couple of those floating around. In fact a fellow IT employee here has one, but she is out on vacation today. I will find out tomorrow if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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#285470 - 14/08/2006 20:20 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: speedy67]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Yes it has an 'Intel Centrino' sticker on it... thanks for the suggestion about the Intel site. Will try now.

(I should add that I don't have the HP CDs so I'm pretty much stuck if that doesn't work)

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#285471 - 14/08/2006 20:21 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: Waterman981]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Thanks Michael... any help would be appreciated!

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#285472 - 14/08/2006 20:26 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
but can't seem to see anything in device manager except for one of those yellow question marks next to 'Network Controller'. The driver is missing and nothing I do will get it to obtain it.


Quite often, you can get the properties for the device. Right-click it in Device Manager, choose Properties and go to the 'Details' tab.

Under Device Instance Id, you'll see a string something like this:
PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4362&SUBSYS_81421043&REV_15\etc.

Go to http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/iii/ and look up the four digits after 'VEN_'. In this example, they're 11AB, which is 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' Clicking on that entry will take you to a page where you can look up the device ID (4362 in my example).

This'll display the model number, etc., of the device, e.g. '88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller'

From there you can drill down into the subsystem ID, but this is not normally necessary. Note that if you do, you need to word-swap the digits (i.e. in groups of 4) of the subsystem ID. In my case, 81421043 translates to 1043:8142, which is 'Marvell 88E8053 Gigabit Ethernet controller PCIe (Asus)'.

Which is actually what my example device is. You should be able to do the same to find yours.
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#285473 - 14/08/2006 20:26 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
Posts: 342
Loc: South-West-Germany
Are you familiar with linux? Then try booting a knoppix CD, the intel wireless cards are supported. Perhaps only to get the model of the card, just watch the hardware detection while booting the CD. It's worth a try...
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#285474 - 14/08/2006 20:42 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: Roger]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Cheers Roger! Its an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG. Downloading the drivers (50MB!) now. Will post later if, sorry... WHEN it works Thanks again guys!

Thomas... sorry I'm no use with Linux. I keep meaning to try it sometime though. One day I'll have MythTV!


Edited by Phil. (14/08/2006 20:43)

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#285475 - 14/08/2006 22:05 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: Roger]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
Quote:
Quite often, you can get the properties for the device. Right-click it in Device Manager, choose Properties and go to the 'Details' tab.

Under Device Instance Id, you'll see a string something like this:
PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4362&SUBSYS_81421043&REV_15\etc.

Go to http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/iii/ and look up the four digits after 'VEN_'. In this example, they're 11AB, which is 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' Clicking on that entry will take you to a page where you can look up the device ID (4362 in my example).


Had to do exactly this today when I had to install a vanilla copy of XP on a new Dell box (it came with XP64 which Avid doesn't like). I got everything bar one device driver reinstalled which unhelpfully showed up as a 'PCI Device'. I used http://www.pcidatabase.com/ which worked really well.

I have to say when I saw a vendor ID of 0x8086 I knew it had to be intel. It's like a personalised licence plate for your car!
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#285476 - 14/08/2006 23:50 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Quote:
sorry I'm no use with Linux.


Pity. The 2200(A)BG works just fine "out-of-the-box" with most modern Linux distros.

-ml

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#285477 - 15/08/2006 01:58 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
Even though that is a big DL. You want it! The intel drivers and config software is so much better than the pucky most OEM's seem to ship.
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#285478 - 15/08/2006 07:18 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
You should be able to download all the drivers for it here

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/
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#285479 - 15/08/2006 10:36 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: Roger]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Quote:
Quite often, you can get the properties for the device.

Thanks for that tip, Roger! That's very useful, as I very often get devices on new OS installs that don't get their drivers installed, and I can't tell what they're supposed to be. I'll be using this in the future!
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#285480 - 15/08/2006 16:11 Re: Unknown device on laptop [Re: Dignan]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Cheers guys! Wireless is all sorted!

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