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#28977 - 03/04/2001 12:19 Slightly OT: HyperTerm help
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
OK, I feel really stupid, having bragged so much about being experienced with ancient stuff like RS232 and such, but here it goes: my Linux laptop just died, and I am reduced to using Windows. I can't get frigging HyperTerm to work correctly. First, it does not append CRs to LFs. I would have fixed that on empeg side by changing stty settings, but HT does not seem to deliver any keystrokes to the player. I tried various emulations, verified that handshaking was off, verified that nothing else is using the port, and used emplode succesfully over the same port and cable.

I must be something trivial....

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Zagreb, Croatia
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#28978 - 03/04/2001 12:23 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: bonzi]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Generally, CRs and LFs are OK in their default settings in Hyperterminal/Windows with the empeg. The only changes from the default you should need to make are the ones listed in my FAQ entry about Hyperterminal. Did you go through that?

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#28979 - 03/04/2001 13:17 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: tfabris]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
...the ones listed in my FAQ entry about Hyperterminal. Did you go through that?

Obviously not carefully enough . Rebooting the player helped. Does anybody have an explanation for that?

Thanks!



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Zagreb, Croatia
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#28980 - 03/04/2001 14:02 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: bonzi]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Obviously not carefully enough

Or not recently enough. I added that reboot paragraph fairly recently. I think I'd mentioned it offhandedly in previous versions of the FAQ, but in the last update I set it off in its own paragraph.

Incidentally, that problem only seems to happen for me under NT. I don't recall ever having to reboot the player on Win98.

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#28981 - 03/04/2001 15:09 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: tfabris]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Incidentally, that problem only seems to happen for me under NT. I don't recall ever having to reboot the player on Win98.

Curiouser and curiouser (or something), as prof. Dodgson would have said... I am running W98, and needed to reboot the player only once (with several restarts of HT and even Win machine and one player upgrade (finally) in the meantime).

Hmm, I think I still have room for one drive in W98 box. I think I will make it double boot .

Cheers!


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Zagreb, Croatia
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#28982 - 04/04/2001 02:48 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: bonzi]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Two possible reasons:

a) Hyperterminal auto-detects some settings (not sure entirely what, though). Sending the boot messages from the player may help it get its head straight.
b) If emplode is configured to look for the player on serial, the player gets put into protocol mode, and output no longer appears on the serial. Rebooting the player puts it back.


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#28983 - 04/04/2001 07:02 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: bonzi]
pca
old hand

Registered: 20/07/1999
Posts: 1102
Loc: UK
One (possibly helpful) bit of advice from experience: Hyperterminal is an awful piece of software. Download and use a real terminal program, and you'll save a lot of time and effort. I use Van Dyke Technologies CRT, which is a damn good program which supports serial, ethernet, and virtually every protocol you've ever heard of.

Stable and easy to use, I can really recommend it. Hyperterminal on the other hand... Gahh!

Patrick.

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#28984 - 04/04/2001 07:31 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: pca]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Yeah, what he said. Except that I use Teraterm.


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#28985 - 04/04/2001 09:21 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: Roger]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
While it's obvious that there are better programs out there than Hyperterminal, the reason I give support for it in the FAQ is that it comes with Windows and everyone has it. That way, I only have to give one set of instructions.

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#28986 - 04/04/2001 10:19 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: Roger]
Jazzwire
addict

Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 483
Loc: Guernsey
Teraterm is great, especially with the ssh plugin... =)

Jazz
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#28987 - 05/04/2001 16:33 Re: Slightly OT: HyperTerm help [Re: Jazzwire]
ricin
veteran

Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
But that's what SecureCRT is for. I'll have to agree with Patrick, I've been using SecureCRT since it came out, and I've never looked back. Check out Van Dyke Technologies.

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