#315689 - 31/10/2008 08:26
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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Boxing TonightA Bricovision animation syncronised with audio from a Gameboy using a hardware interface. Just brilliant!
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#316636 - 25/11/2008 02:01
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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#316804 - 01/12/2008 13:32
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#316807 - 01/12/2008 13:49
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I can remember back to 1997 when Steve Jobs re-joined Apple. Back when the Simpsons was still mildly funny.
I've tried to watch a few Simpsons episodes over the past three years, but they all seem to fall completely flat. The six minute segment had only one highlight for me - the hammer throw by the comic book guy. But it still didn't make me laugh.
I guess I've been ruined by Family Guy, American Dad and the all-time best animated adult-oriented show of all time, South Park.
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#316828 - 01/12/2008 18:00
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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Agreed that Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park are funnier these days than The Simpsons. But all of those series owe their very existence to The Simpsons. If it weren't for Groening and the Fox network, the idea of prime-time animated cartoons oriented towards adult humor wouldn't have existed at all.
Personally I can't get enough Robot Chicken (Star Wars 2 was awesome), but that's a different animal. That one is edgy enough to be aneurysm-inducingly funny while sometimes making me want to erase my brain and forget I ever saw it.
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#316835 - 01/12/2008 19:44
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Agreed that Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park are funnier these days than The Simpsons. Family Guy? Funny? That was written in 2004. The last time I watched Family Guy, a couple weeks ago while sitting in a hotel, it didn't appear to have shown much, if any, improvement. The Simpsons, even in their current non-peak funniness, is still better than Family Guy. IMHO.
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#316836 - 01/12/2008 20:15
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It's all about different tastes. I used to actively dislike Family Guy, and I believe I even said so in a post on this very BBS. It changed subtly after the first couple of seasons and now it cracks me up every time.
I skimmed that article and I disagree with most of his main points. Quick examples: Stewie is not a rip-off of Pinky and the Brain, Stewie and P&B are *both* parodies of megalomaniac stereotypes. Reference humor is not lazy writing, it's a specific type of humor that appeals to a specific taste; being a longtime MST3K fan, reference humor appeals to me, and they do it particularly skillfully (as does Robot Chicken, hence my love for that show too).
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#316837 - 01/12/2008 20:18
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I do agree with him on one thing, though: Duckman was awesome.
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#316842 - 01/12/2008 20:49
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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If it weren't for Groening and the Fox network, the idea of prime-time animated cartoons oriented towards adult humor wouldn't have existed at all. Fred Flintstone would like a word with you... Ok- 'Adult Oriented' in the 60's vs today is quite a radical step and I can't honestly compare South Park with The Flintstones. Instead, I'll argue that the Simpson's today is as much a 'Family Oriented' show as the Flintstones was back then. Personally I can't get enough Robot Chicken (Star Wars 2 was awesome), but that's a different animal. That one is edgy enough to be aneurysm-inducingly funny while sometimes making me want to erase my brain and forget I ever saw it. Yes! I have a Robot Chicken addiction.
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#316848 - 02/12/2008 01:46
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I haven't read the article, but I couldn't agree more. I have seldom seen things less funny than Family Guy. I got more laughs out of Equus.
Edit: Read it. Totally agree.
Edited by wfaulk (02/12/2008 01:52)
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#316850 - 02/12/2008 01:56
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Reference humor is not lazy writing, it's a specific type of humor that appeals to a specific taste; being a longtime MST3K fan, reference humor appeals to me, and they do it particularly skillfully The problem is that it can be funny when the reference is a punch line to a joke, as it was on MST. On Family Guy, there is no joke for the reference to be a punch line to. Apparently it's supposed to exist as its own joke. And that's just not funny.
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#316873 - 02/12/2008 16:54
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Reference humor is not lazy writing, it's a specific type of humor that appeals to a specific taste; being a longtime MST3K fan, reference humor appeals to me, and they do it particularly skillfully The problem is that it can be funny when the reference is a punch line to a joke, as it was on MST. On Family Guy, there is no joke for the reference to be a punch line to. Apparently it's supposed to exist as its own joke. And that's just not funny. You beat me to the punch. I think that's why the author called it lazy writing. All they're doing is finding something that was funny in its original state, and dropping the whole thing into the Family Guy. At that point, it's no longer a "reference" -- it's just blatantly copying someone else's material. It's as far from skillful, as one can get. MST3K, on the other hand, has references. They don't keep bludgeoning you with it for 5 minutes, to make sure you really, really got it.
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#316874 - 02/12/2008 17:11
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I think we're getting off topic. Sorry, I think I started it. I prefer American Dad to Family guy at least 2:1 easily. But I still maintain that the Simpsons has not been consistently funny in at least 10 years.
However, if were to consider South Park a 10, even though I like the other animated programs mentioned, none of them would be higher than a 5. SP is simply that much better than anything else. Better references, better stories, more social commentary, just plain funnier stuff.
BTW, I also like King of the Hill but I haven't watched it in ages, though episodes are accumulating on my PVR. In fact I have yet to watch any of this season's Family Guy or American Dad either.
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#316876 - 02/12/2008 18:21
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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I prefer American Dad to Family guy at least 2:1 easily. But I still maintain that the Simpsons has not been consistently funny in at least 10 years. I could quibble with some numbers or degrees, but I will not disagree with any of the basic sentiment in that statement. Notice that it does not compare The Simpsons to Family Guy/ American Dad. And, IMNSHO, The Simpsons has the advantage because it has ever been funny. SP is simply that much better than anything else. Better references, better stories, more social commentary, just plain funnier stuff. Generally true, but their political episodes tire me. Their espoused viewpoints are usually wrongheaded, poorly defended, and irritating. They do great when they do an episode that's basically about kids, though.
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#316899 - 03/12/2008 15:51
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#316927 - 03/12/2008 18:34
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OMG! That was one of my favorite Archimedes demos!
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#317259 - 12/12/2008 13:09
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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Hi all: some of you know that I am co-owner of a very (extremely) small (did we mention how small we were?) film production company. This year we received funding to produce a pilot for a series of small, and quirky, comedic shorts, called "Cappers." Premise: richly eccentric bottle cap openers with telepathic powers--of course-- living in a bar, where else? You probably 'have to see-it-to-believe- it' ... Anyway, believe it or not... over a year later, Cappers finally premiered on Comedy Central's web tv outlet. http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/cappers_xmas_102/ Every hit is like a vote in the popularity contest of entertainment commerce ... Comedy Central will buy more episodes only if it's popular. As the Bartles and James guys would have said, "Thanks for your support !" If you know who they are... well, let's just say you may find that my use of the term quirky is a radical understatement. Keep in mind who watches TV on the net. If the Bartles & James reference is lost on you... never mind, you'll love Cappers ! ...thanks and enjoy, -T
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#317265 - 12/12/2008 15:02
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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Heh- YouTube has several of the old Bartles and James ads. It's like a trip to the 80's! LOL
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#317272 - 12/12/2008 17:01
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Cappers finally premiered on Comedy Central's web tv outlet. NSFW due to languague... thank heavens for earphones.
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#317276 - 13/12/2008 00:34
Re: Best Videos - 2008
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Heh- YouTube has several of the old Bartles and James ads. It's like a trip to the 80's! LOL YouTube to the rescue. You prompted me to go look for an old Wendy's ad. No fan of Wendy's but I thought the Fashion Show ad was brilliant. Now to see if I can find the Bartles and Jaymes "vernal equinox" ad.
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#317277 - 13/12/2008 05:55
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I rank this as the best television commercial ever filmed. As opposed to this one which I rank as the most effective commercial: 35 years after it first aired, just about everybody I know can still sing the full song. tanstaafl.
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#320161 - 09/03/2009 13:50
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