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#318942 - 09/02/2009 15:16 classic cheesy nerd movies
DWallach
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Some Rice CS undergrads are looking to put together a series of "nerdy" movie nights. This got me brainstorming. Feel free to add your own ideas. Here's what I wrote them.

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I'll focus on older nerdy films and I'll stay away from the blockbusters that you're probably already familiar with (e.g., Back to the Future, The Matrix, The Fifth Element, Men in Black, Ghostbusters).

80's cheese:

- Real Genius (Val Kilmer, et al. -- eminently quotable, fun)
- The Wizard of Speed and Time (pretty much the ultimate obscure animation nerd film)
- Buckaroo Banzai's Adventures in the 8th Dimension (less obscure, more awesome)
- Spaceballs (Mel Brooks parodies Star Wars)
- The Princess Bride (easily the most quotable nerdy chick film ever)
- Tron (does it get any nerdier than Tron?)
- Wargames (okay, Wargames comes close to Tron in nerdiness)
- They Live (aliens have taken over, and only a pro-wrestler with cool sunglasses can see them)
- The Hidden (aliens take over human bodies and drive fast sports cars)
- This is Spinal Tap (mock documentary of an 80's heavy metal band)
- Little Shop of Horrors (less nerdy, great for singing along -- some argue it should be treated like the Rocky Horror Picture Show, with costumes and everything)
- Battle Beyond the Stars (cheesy, 80's b-film, trying to ride on Star Wars's coattails. Poorly.)
- Deathrace 2000 (lots of carnage; pairs well with "Speed Racer")
- Robocop (still entertaining)

Classic cheese:

- Sleeper (Woody Allen -- though not everybody gets into Woody Allen's style of humor)
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail (possibly the best of the Python films)
- Young Frankenstein (arguably Mel Brooks's best film)
- Duck Soup (the Marx brothers at their best -- very funny)
- Dr. Strangelove (or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb)


More "serious" nerdy films:

- Gattaca (crazy future where DNA testing is mainstream and ubiquitous)
- Brazil (dark future where the faceless, nameless bureaucracy runs the show, also directed by Gilliam -- get the director's cut if you can)
- Close Encounters of the Third Kind (holds up surprisingly well, as opposed to, for example, E.T.)
- Blade Runner (Harrison Ford in a Phillip K. Dick mind-twisting short story adaptation done properly -- get the director's cut if you can)
- Total Recall (Arnold Schwarzenegger in a Phillip K. Dick mind-twisting short story adaptation done not quite as well as Blade Runner)
- Akira (Japanese post-apocalyptic anime)
- The Abyss (aliens living below our oceans -- only show if you can get the director's cut)
- 2001: A Space Odyssey (trippy but brilliant)



And you might as well include a comedy zombie film two-fer at some point:

- Shaun of the Dead (brilliant rip on the whole zombie film genre)
- Army of Darkness (third in the Evil Dead series)


Honorable mentions:

- Mars Attacks! (genius nerdy material if ever there was)
- Wallace and Grommit (three original animated 30-minute shorts plus a later feature-length film)
- Run Lola Run (a German film with great techno music; what if you had three shots to do something over?)
- Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (see Keanu Reeves in the only role he actually plays well: a stoner kid on a wild ride)
- Clerks (the original Kevin Smith slacker film, pairs nicely with Bill & Ted's)
- Heavy Metal (animated, not particularly good but still a classic; best paired with the South Park episode, "Major Boobage" that parodies it)
- Starcrash (never seen it, but any film that has David Hasslehoff with a light saber...)
- THX 1138 (George Lucas's original sci-fi film, something of an Orwellian dystopia, pairs well with Brazil or maybe Logan's Run)
- The Last Starfighter (a trailer-park kid turns out to be great at a videogame which was actually training him to be a space pilot... *sigh*)



When I was an undergrad, we'd do double-feature film nights in one of the bigger auditoriums, generally going for pairings that had something vaguely in common. Example: we paired "They Live" with "Looker", since both films have subliminal mind control as central themes in their plot. You could similarly build a whole series around Phillip K. Dick-esque brain twisting, whether using classics like "Blade Runner" and "Total Recall", or more recent films like "The Truman Show" and "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind". Recall and Sunshine, for example, both feature brain-memory modification devices. Run Lola Run and Groundhog Day both have the protagonist reliving the past and trying to get it right.

Anybody here have anything to add to the list?

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#318943 - 09/02/2009 15:33 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
peter
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Originally Posted By: DWallach
- Wallace and Grommit (three original animated 30-minute shorts plus a later feature-length film)

Plus "Chicken Run", lots of nerdy references to Star Trek etc?
Originally Posted By: DWallach
- The Last Starfighter (a trailer-park kid turns out to be great at a videogame which was actually training him to be a space pilot... *sigh*)

Double-bill with "Flight Of The Navigator"?

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#318944 - 09/02/2009 15:33 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
wfaulk
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Rock and Rule, to add to your animated list.

The Number 23, to add to your mindfuck list. (Yes, it's Jim Carrey, but it's actually good geeky fun if you get the references.)

The Specials, for obscure superhero films.

Corman's Fantastic Four, for obscure crappy superhero films. (As opposed to the more recent one, which is a non-obscure crappy superhero film.)

There are a lot more PKD adaptations, most of them pretty bad. From bad to worse: Impostor, Screamers, Paycheck, Minority Report. I've actually not gotten around to seeing A Scanner Darkly or Next. Honorable mention: Confessions d'un Barjo, a French language adaptation of Dick's non-SF Confessions of a Crap Artist.

Lots of other Gilliam films fit. Time Bandits, Twelve Monkeys, etc.
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#318945 - 09/02/2009 15:57 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Random order... (Sorry, I wrote this out before realizing the subject said "cheesy" - these are a mix of cheese and non-cheese)

Howard the Duck
Weird Science
The Ice Pirates
The Island
Strange Days
The Arrival (and the Arrival 2)
Earth Girls are Easy
Battle Star Gallactica (movie version made from TV original TV show episodes)
Dune (David Lynch version, not that crap that was on TV a few years ago)
Existenz
Dark City
The Fifth Element
Metropolis (1927)
Red Dawn
Ladyhawke
Outland (Sean Connery)
Labyrinth
The Goonies

Animated:
Cowboy Bebop: The Movie
Ghost in the Shell
Metropolis
Undergrads (TV series of 12 episodes)


Edited by hybrid8 (09/02/2009 16:40)
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#318983 - 09/02/2009 21:02 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: hybrid8]
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Where is "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"?
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#318986 - 09/02/2009 21:07 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: hybrid8]
larry818
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Dark Star (1974)
Brainstorm (1983)

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#318990 - 09/02/2009 21:32 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: LittleBlueThing]
DWallach
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Originally Posted By: LittleBlueThing
Where is "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"?

Certainly a classic, but is it a nerd film?

I just find myself wondering, what are the modern-day equivalent of all the 80's cheese we grew up with? We had Revenge of the Nerds, Weird Science, Real Genius, and on it goes. Now they've got what, Napoleon Dynamite?

One thing I just realized is deeply in need of being added to my list: Sneakers. Can't be a hacker-nerd without having watched that one. On the other hand, I think we can safely leave out Johnny Mnemonic. Shudder.

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#318992 - 09/02/2009 21:38 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
wfaulk
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#318997 - 09/02/2009 23:03 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
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#318999 - 09/02/2009 23:44 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: Robotic]
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#319000 - 10/02/2009 00:43 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: Attack]
andym
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The only two I can think of that haven't been mentioned already that might fit the bill are Videodrome and Scanners.
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#319007 - 10/02/2009 03:39 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: andym]
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Oh Yes, The Hudsucker Proxy "You know, For Kids"

Second Hand Lions - Michal Cane, Robert Duval
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#319009 - 10/02/2009 04:33 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: larry818]
altman
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Originally Posted By: larry818
Dark Star (1974)


Beat me to it!

Bomb number 20, you're out of the bomb bay again....

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#319018 - 10/02/2009 13:21 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
Tim
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It's a moral imperative - one of the best lines ever.

I'm not sure if The Manhattan Project should be added? Some high school kid builds a nuclear bomb as a science fair project.

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#319020 - 10/02/2009 14:16 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
Redrum
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You can just blanket in all Star Trek movies. They have to be at the top of the nerd list.

To have a following of nerds that dress up as the characters has got to be over the top.

Although the TV shows were nerdier

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#319022 - 10/02/2009 15:19 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: Redrum]
DWallach
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Or do you just skip Star Trek altogether and go straight to Galaxy Quest?

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#319023 - 10/02/2009 16:08 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
tfabris
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Originally Posted By: DWallach
Originally Posted By: LittleBlueThing
Where is "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"?

Certainly a classic, but is it a nerd film?


I think so. (Happens to be my favorite film, so I'm biased.)

Things that qualify it as a nerd film:

- Main characters, Cameron especially but even Ferris to a degree, are somewhat geeky in their personalities and behavior, and are shown as role models. This differs from a lot of 80's teen fare, where geeks are used as targets of derision.

- Specific geek humor instances include: Usage of the pac-man death sound when Rooney gets embarrassed at the pizza parlor, Star Wars theme song when parking attendants take Ferrari for a joyride, several instances of Ferris' use of technology to fool Rooney and his parents, etc.

- Main characters skip school. Do they do drugs? Do they commit crimes? No, they go to an art museum. C'mon, you can't get any geekier than that.

- It stars the same star from "WarGames". That gets it geek points all by itself.

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#319024 - 10/02/2009 16:11 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: Redrum]
wfaulk
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He said to avoid blockbusters. How about a marathon of Star Trek animated?

On another subject, Millennium. Not the TV show, the movie.

Also, Megaforce.
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#319025 - 10/02/2009 16:37 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
Robotic
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Originally Posted By: DWallach
Or do you just skip Star Trek altogether and go straight to Galaxy Quest?
Ha! Ya beat me.
Revisiting Star Trek canon isn't nearly as enjoyable as poking fun at it. That's like a choice between reading a civics textbook or watching a Bill Hicks show.
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#319026 - 10/02/2009 17:01 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: Robotic]
Redrum
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Originally Posted By: Robotic
Originally Posted By: DWallach
Or do you just skip Star Trek altogether and go straight to Galaxy Quest?
Ha! Ya beat me.
Revisiting Star Trek canon isn't nearly as enjoyable as poking fun at it. That's like a choice between reading a civics textbook or watching a Bill Hicks show.


The Futurama were they got almost all the cast (even Welshie???) to spoof it was great!

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#319027 - 10/02/2009 17:33 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
BartDG
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The breakfast club?
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#319032 - 10/02/2009 18:04 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: BartDG]
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Cloak and Dagger?
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#319034 - 10/02/2009 18:17 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: BartDG]
DWallach
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Originally Posted By: Archeon
The breakfast club?

Classic? No question. Cheesy? In at least one scene, literally. Nerdy? Not sure on that. I see it as more of a misfit movie than a nerd movie.

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#319044 - 10/02/2009 19:52 Re: classic cheesy nerd movies [Re: DWallach]
BartDG
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Ok, fair enough.

Explorers then maybe?

Or Meatballs, Ghost Busters or Groundhog Day? (yes, all Bill Murray movies! smile )
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