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#351738 - 22/04/2012 13:43 Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost
julf
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Elaine just walked in and said "my mac just died". Indeed. It's an old Macbook Pro, and when trying to start, all we get is a grayscale square with a text about how the computer needs to be restarted by holding down the power button. My first guess is that it might be the hard disk, but I know *nothing* about Macs - anyone came across this? Any advice and/or ideas?

Julf

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#351739 - 22/04/2012 14:54 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: julf]
K447
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Registered: 29/05/2002
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Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
How old is this computer?

Will it boot from an OS X install CD?

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#351740 - 22/04/2012 22:42 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: K447]
tonyc
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Hold Command-V to enable verbose boot logging. If that's not helpful, holding "D" will run a hardware test sequence.

More here.
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#351741 - 23/04/2012 03:37 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: julf]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
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That's a kernel panic screen. Could be a corrupt disk, unlikely to be a totally dead one. Boot from an install CD and run disk utility for starters, that might fix it...

If disk util says all is fine, reinstall (which doesn't wipe your user data).

Of course, if it does the same when booting from the install CD, then the HW is likely toasted in some way.

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#351743 - 23/04/2012 06:58 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: K447]
julf
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Originally Posted By: K447
How old is this computer?


5 years or so.

Quote:
Will it boot from an OS X install CD?


Haven't tried yet - will have to find the very well stored away original CD's...

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#351744 - 23/04/2012 07:30 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: tonyc]
julf
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Originally Posted By: tonyc
Hold Command-V to enable verbose boot logging. If that's not helpful, holding "D" will run a hardware test sequence.


The boot log looks like it proceeds OK until it stops with a "Log in application started". Can't seem to get into the hardware test.

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#351745 - 23/04/2012 10:37 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: julf]
K447
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Originally Posted By: julf
... will have to find the very well stored away original CD's...
Has the OS major version been upgraded since the original machine purchase?

If so, boot with the upgrade CD.

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#351748 - 23/04/2012 12:48 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: K447]
julf
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Originally Posted By: K447
Originally Posted By: julf
... will have to find the very well stored away original CD's...
Has the OS major version been upgraded since the original machine purchase?

If so, boot with the upgrade CD.


Ah, yes! Still have to wait for Elaine to get home and tell where she has put the upgrade CDs...

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#351750 - 23/04/2012 14:05 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: julf]
drakino
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Originally Posted By: julf
Can't seem to get into the hardware test.

It may not be on the hard drive. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1509 has more info on the hardware test.

Apple has a full kernel panic doc here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3742

This covers the general order Apple recommends for troubleshooting this to narrow it down between a software issue or hardware problem.

Holding down Command-V is supposed to also force kernel panics to be verbose, dumping to the screen potential useful info.

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#351752 - 23/04/2012 15:05 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: drakino]
julf
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Great information - thanks! Now I just have to find the install CD/DVD... frown

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#351754 - 23/04/2012 16:17 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: drakino]
julf
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OK, managed to run hardware diagnostics - and it found a hardware error. very helpfully, it is 4SNS/1/40000000:TGOD - googling indicates "bad sensor on motherboard". frown

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#351757 - 23/04/2012 17:56 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: julf]
Phoenix42
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I found this
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4SNS is a temp sensor fault code. The sensor is the TGOD sensor, which is on the logic board.

A little more info here.

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#351758 - 23/04/2012 18:19 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: Phoenix42]
tonyc
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I had a logic board on my Macbook Pro replaced last year. Don't remember the exact number (because it was covered under AppleCare) but I remember thinking "boy, I'm glad I'm covered under AppleCare, because that's a big number."
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#351766 - 24/04/2012 08:40 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: tonyc]
julf
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Originally Posted By: tonyc
I had a logic board on my Macbook Pro replaced last year. Don't remember the exact number (because it was covered under AppleCare) but I remember thinking "boy, I'm glad I'm covered under AppleCare, because that's a big number."


Right, Oh well, it's 5 years old or something, so perhaps time to bite the upgrade bullet - seems there is a new slim one about to come out...

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#351770 - 24/04/2012 13:12 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: julf]
drakino
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Did you run through the steps to reset the system management controller? Worth a shot at least since it's a sensor issue:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

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#351772 - 24/04/2012 16:13 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: drakino]
julf
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Originally Posted By: drakino
Did you run through the steps to reset the system management controller?


Thanks - I did. No joy.

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#351774 - 24/04/2012 21:13 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: Phoenix42]
canuckInOR
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Originally Posted By: Phoenix42
I found this
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temp sensor fault

I'd like to point out that, once again, the Empeg is ahead of its time. wink

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#351775 - 24/04/2012 23:11 Re: Macbook Pro suddenly gave up the ghost [Re: canuckInOR]
mlord
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smile +5

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