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#358360 - 23/04/2013 19:42 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	http://www.wd.com/en/company/pressroom/releases/?release=df55432a-a89f-40fc-81f0-ca9bd8b5d771 Wonder what it would take to be able to get four of these working in the Empeg Car chassis, stacking two atop each other on each side of the tray. :-) _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#358363 - 25/04/2013 04:54 Re: 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital [Re: tfabris]
BartDG carpal tunnel Registered: 20/05/2001 Posts: 2616 Loc: Bruges, Belgium	Nice! But I'm guessing the necessary 4 SATA to IDE converters would take up too much space. Pity, it would be cool though! _________________________ Riocar 80gig S/N : 010101580 red Riocar 80gig (010102106) - backup
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#358367 - 25/04/2013 07:18 Re: 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital [Re: BartDG]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	That is slim! But those drives 'only' max out at 500GB. You'd be better off with one (or two!) WD20NPVT 2TB 15mm drives. I know the builder has memory issues with drives over around 60GB or so, but say you built the partitions and filesystem manually on two 2TB drives, would a 4TB Empeg actually work? EXT2 can go up to 2TB, so that is promising. It would be space for over 1,000,000 tracks or so of typical MP3s. I wonder how big the player database can get before the Empeg stops having space for it? Would Emplode be able to add that amount of music in the first place? If it didn't barf, how long would adding that amount of music to the player actually take? I feel like this is something that needs to be tried out. _________________________ Hussein
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#358371 - 25/04/2013 14:04 Re: 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital [Re: sein]
canuckInOR carpal tunnel Registered: 13/02/2002 Posts: 3212 Loc: Portland, OR	Originally Posted By: sein That is slim! But those drives 'only' max out at 500GB. You'd be better off with one (or two!) WD20NPVT 2TB 15mm drives. I know the builder has memory issues with drives over around 60GB or so, but say you built the partitions and filesystem manually on two 2TB drives, would a 4TB Empeg actually work? EXT2 can go up to 2TB, so that is promising. It would be space for over 1,000,000 tracks or so of typical MP3s. I wonder how big the player database can get before the Empeg stops having space for it? Would Emplode be able to add that amount of music in the first place? If it didn't barf, how long would adding that amount of music to the player actually take? I feel like this is something that needs to be tried out. It has been tried. There's quite an extensive body of knowledge on putting large disks into the player. pgrzelak was one of the first to start. Search around for his posts on large disks. IIRC, the problem isn't the player database, or Emplode -- it's the limited amount of RAM available on the player for manipulating the database, in conjunction with limitations in the player, on how many FIDs you can keep in a playlist (the max is 43648, thanks to Mark).
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#358372 - 25/04/2013 14:44 Re: 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital [Re: canuckInOR]
canuckInOR carpal tunnel Registered: 13/02/2002 Posts: 3212 Loc: Portland, OR	Originally Posted By: canuckInOR Originally Posted By: sein I feel like this is something that needs to be tried out. It has been tried. There's quite an extensive body of knowledge on putting large disks into the player. pgrzelak was one of the first to start. Search around for his posts on large disks. IIRC, the problem isn't the player database, or Emplode -- it's the limited amount of RAM available on the player for manipulating the database, in conjunction with limitations in the player, on how many FIDs you can keep in a playlist (the max is 43648, thanks to Mark). My memory is, perhaps, not so good. It was Ross Wellington, that started with a 1TB drive. I'm not sure if anyone has tried larger. The FAQ points you to this thread, which is a good discussion of the limitations of large databases.
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#358374 - 25/04/2013 22:43 Re: 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital [Re: canuckInOR]
Ross Wellington enthusiast Registered: 21/02/2006 Posts: 325	Hi, I tried different size drives, different SATA adapters, some would stomp on the Ethernet Port, some wouldn't work with Emplode, manual build of database topped out too, etc... Urry has also tried to get it working. It sounded like he may have found something that may work. Early in the saga of Big Disk Builders, I thought Mark had created a Hijack that allowed 3.5 inch PATA drives, (something about the spin-up delay was a problem). Mark could comment some more on this. Mark really advanced us to where we are now with twin 320GB drives. That was hard. I would like to get this all working too, but, I think we wore Mark out! Ross Wellington _________________________ In SI, a little termination and attention to layout goes a long way. In EMC, without SI, you'll spend 80% of the effort on the last 3dB.
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#358376 - 26/04/2013 06:08 Re: 5mm laptop hard disks from Western Digital [Re: canuckInOR]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Wow, some great info on that thread. Thanks! _________________________ Hussein
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