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#38060 - 05/09/2001 03:22 Umlauts missing in visuals
tigloo
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Registered: 25/04/2001
Posts: 122
Loc: Hamburg, Germany
Hi,

when using the visuals, umlauts are not displayed. (i.e. when using the infotext visuals)

Till



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#38061 - 05/09/2001 10:58 Re: Umlauts missing in visuals [Re: tigloo]
prolux
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Registered: 17/08/1999
Posts: 151
Loc: Manchester, UK
The new version of the visuals (not yet released) has a full character set

Toby




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#38062 - 05/09/2001 11:13 Re: Umlauts missing in visuals [Re: prolux]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
What's considered a "full" character set?

Or, equivalently, what character set does the player support?

When I've looked in tags on the player, they appear to be encoded as ISO-8859.1 or similar; does this mean that characters outside the Latin-1 set (e.g. Welsh vowels w and y with circumflex) are not representable?

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#38063 - 05/09/2001 12:54 Re: Umlauts missing in visuals [Re: tms13]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I don't see a solution short of going to full Unicode (or perhaps restricting ourself to 8-bit ISO sets and introducing a tag specifying which to use). My titles have a lot of Latin2 (ISO-8859-2) characters, and there are users from Israel, those who write in one of variants of Cyrilic... I am affraid we will be stuck with Latin1 for a while Not the end of the world - I have grown up with pure 7-bit ASCII in '70s.

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#38064 - 06/09/2001 02:37 Re: Umlauts missing in visuals [Re: bonzi]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
IIRC, ID3v2 allows labelling of encodings - I guess emptool and emplode probably ignore these and assume ISO-8859.1 instead...

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#38065 - 06/09/2001 02:49 Re: Umlauts missing in visuals [Re: tms13]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
IIRC, ID3v2 allows labelling of encodings - I guess emptool and emplode probably ignore these and assume ISO-8859.1 instead...

ID3v2 supports 8859-1, UTF-16, and (in v2.4.0) UTF-8.

Currently, emptool/emplode ignore UTF-16 and UTF-8 tags -- not that there's much else we can do, with only 8859-1 fonts on the player. This is, of course, a Bad Thing for those who want their songs labelled in Cyrillic, Hebrew, Welsh etc, let alone ideographic languages, but other car-player work has just always had higher priority.

We might do something with Unicode tags for some future car-player release (with UTF-8 on the player), but it won't be in 2.0.

Peter



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#38066 - 06/09/2001 03:03 Character sets (was: Umlauts missing in visuals) [Re: peter]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
In reply to:

... other car-player work has just always had higher priority.




Sorry if I sounded ungrateful - I agree with the above, and don't currently have any non-Latin-1 tags. It's simply an idle interest for me .

Keep up the good work!

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