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#39669 - 27/09/2001 15:09 USB-to-ethernet adapters?
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
If someone wanted to recompile the empeg kernel with the appropriate driver code, would it be possible to plug a USB-to-ethernet adapter into the Mark 1's USB port and have it work?

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#39670 - 27/09/2001 15:14 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: tfabris]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
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Loc: Berlin, DE
nope, not a chance.. this has been discussed before, i thought this was in the FAQ, the mk1/mk2 USB connectors are client side only. a hub server is necessary, the only way to do this is to write some kind of ethernet-over-usb driver, and have a PC do routing to an ethernet device.. but that would be really icky to write ;)

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#39671 - 27/09/2001 16:41 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: tfabris]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
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Hmm.. someone must have hijacked Tony's account to write that post..
-m

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#39672 - 27/09/2001 16:49 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: dionysus]
beaker
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Registered: 19/08/2000
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Naah... he was probably in the loo.

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#39673 - 27/09/2001 16:50 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: dionysus]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hmm.. someone must have hijacked Tony's account to write that post.

Heh.

Did you mean, because (a) I should have known the answer to that question, or because (b) I shouldn't care since I own a Mk2?

Well, let me give you my reasoning behind both...

(a) I wasn't sure if the statements about "client only" applied to using the little USB-to-ethernet boxes such as the Linksys USB10T or not.

(b) I still use my Mk1 as an indoor player, and it's now mounted neatly on a rack next to my television. I was thinking if I could run ethernet to it, then I'd be able to update it from my PC in the office. Also, I was thinking of the discussions about third-party backup utilities, and wondering if ethernet-only solutions such as Displayserver could be made to work on a Mk1.

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#39674 - 27/09/2001 18:59 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: tfabris]
bobo
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Registered: 13/08/1999
Posts: 116
displayserver is a ethernet-only-solution ?

it works fine on my mk1 (ppp over USB) :-)
(I installed a port-forwarder on the ppp host)

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#39675 - 28/09/2001 07:10 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: bobo]
Dearing
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Registered: 22/07/1999
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Could you share your finesse with the group? How could I do this over Win98? Can Win98 be a PPP host with forwarding, or is that a Linux-only thing? Please let us know/share the code.
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Jason

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#39676 - 28/09/2001 10:37 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: Dearing]
fvgestel
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Registered: 12/08/2000
Posts: 702
Loc: Netherlands
I searched for ppp on win32 and on cygwin, without result. Tried compiling pppd from source on cygwin, but it's too specific to the OS.
I thought of something different : use ssh to connect over the usb link and use ssh's internal port-forwarding. On the empeg sshd should be running and a proxy for routing the usb to the ssh-port. The ssh client has got a proxy option which lets it execute a program to setup the connection; another small proxy for win32 should be written.

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#39677 - 28/09/2001 16:59 PPP over USB [Re: Dearing]
bobo
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Registered: 13/08/1999
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I think it will be very difficult on a windows system.

If you are interested in the configuration on the linux box/empeg I can try to give zou some advice.
I cant send you my current configuration, because my empeg is about 8000 km's away from me :-(

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#39678 - 05/10/2001 22:06 Re: USB-to-ethernet adapters? [Re: tfabris]
n6mod
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Registered: 27/09/1999
Posts: 200
Loc: Berkeley, CA
a) I wasn't sure if the statements about "client only" applied to using the little USB-to-ethernet boxes such as the Linksys USB10T or not.

Yep, USB has two endpoints: "Host" and "Slave" Hosts are controller devices, and have "A" connectors (the wide, flat ones). Slaves are peripheral devices and have "B" connectors. (The square ones like on the back of the empeg).

Slaves can't talk to slaves, and Hosts can only talk to hosts with the bridge cables that are starting to replace LapLink cables. There's a chip in the middle to bridge the two busses.

(b) I still use my Mk1 as an indoor player, and it's now mounted neatly on a rack next to my television. I was thinking if I could run ethernet to it, then I'd be able to update it from my PC in the office. Also, I was thinking of the discussions about third-party backup utilities, and wondering if ethernet-only solutions such as Displayserver could be made to work on a Mk1.

I have the same goals, though you're ahead of me. I was thinking of building a minimal linux box, ideally just enough machine to bridge between PPP over USB and Ethernet. I could use one of my spare iOpeners for this, but even that's overkill.

Bobo: I'd be very interested in both your Mk. I and gateway Linux box configs to make this work.

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