I applied V2b11 and every time I reboot my player, sync it from emplode it restart in Visual Mode ...

Haven't tried it in car mode

I missed something ?

This problem appeared from the beginning and is not linked to Hijack I installed ..

It 's in Transient Mode ...

same here

I don't even really use the visuals, so I have mine set to ``Off'', and it still comes up in Transient mode, but only on AC. Comes up in Track mode in the car (DC), which is what I want.

Confirmed here.

If we're not going to get an update for another few weeks, we should ask Mark to put a temporary "force" for AC mode.

Bruno

Yeah, that new feature is annoying as hell, and I've gone back to Wednesdays beta10 instead, cuz I can't stand it.

Rob?? Can you put out a beta12 ASAP with just that one feature fixed?? Otherwise, I doubt that beta11 will get much of a work-out from people.

-ml

I'll second that. I've already gone back to beta7 because of the problem. It's amazing how annoying just one simple piece of functionality can be......

Andy.

I need some help from everyone with this.

Basically, I need people to go through all of the combinations of visual on/off and the various INFO modes, in both car/home, and verify that this sucker screws up the same way every time.

That is, does it always (under all conditions) power up to Transient in AC/Home mode, and does it always hit Track info in DC/Car mode?

If more than a couple of people can test/confirm this, then I might reload beta11 and implement a Hijack workaround of some kind for it. In the interim, I suppose the Hijack "Initial=" ir_translate sequence could be used as a static workaround.

Cheers

On one of my empegs it didnt go to transient right away, after the upgrade it was stuck to "info: off".
I tried switching it to every different info option and rebooting.
It always came back to "off" except one time when it came back as "transient". I monkeyed around with it some more, and eventually got it stuck back on Off.
I then went back to b7.
On my other empeg (10GB) after the upgrade it was indeed stuck on transient. I did the same switching, but couldnt get it to change to anything other than transient.

All this was with Visuals mode off.

Z~

Mark, I have made serious Tests and here is my report :

In Home Mode :

Player in Track Info
Reboot
Player restart in Transient Info

Player in Seek Info
Reboot
Player restart in Transient Info

Player in Now & Next Info
Reboot
Player restart in Transient Info

Player in Info Off
Reboot
Player restart in Info Off

Player in Info Line
Reboot
Player restart in Info Line

Player in Info Transient
Reboot
Player restart in Info Transient


I have only tried the Car Mode in Track Info and after a reboot the player restarted in Track Info.

I will try it ..

Mark. Here are the results of my tests:
on AC
vis: off, info: track, reboot to transient
vis: off, info: seek, reboot to transient
vis: off, info: now & next, reboot to transient
vis: off, info: off, reboot to info off
vis: off, info: line, reboot to line
vis: off, info: trans, reboot to trans

vis: on, info: track, reboot to transient
vis: on, info: seek reboot to transient
vis: on, info: now & next, reboot to transient
vis: on, info: off, reboot to info off
vis: on, info: line, reboot to line
vis: on, info: trans, reboot to trans

on DC
vis: off, info: track, reboot to track
vis: off, info: seek, reboot to seek
vis: off, info: now & next, reboot to now & next
vis: off, info: off, reboot to now & next
vis: off, info: line, reboot to now & next
vis: off, info: trans, reboot to now & next

vis: on, info: track, reboot to track
vis: on, info: seek, reboot to seek
vis: on, info: now & next, reboot to now & next
vis: on, info: off, reboot to now & next
vis: on, info: line, reboot to now & next
vis: on, info: trans, reboot to now & next

I had Hijack v193 running with Restore DC/Car Visuals turned off. I used Hijack to force DC/Car mode for the DC results. Hope this helps.

I only tested with Visuals Off ... but it seems we have same results for Home mode

I forgot also we can force to DC Mode in Hijack !!!!

Yeah I'd forgotten at first too. Bloody handy tool that Hijack. Kudos to Mark for all his efforts .

Hi Mark,

My results are the same as 'beaker'.

Andy.

I'm going to leave it for a week while folks nag Rob about it.

-ml

Other folks have claimed that there is explicitly no difference between b10 and b11 besides a naming difference for external release. Your post would say that that's not true. Clarification?

There's no kernel differences.

But there are different bugs between the (internal) beta10 and the external beta11.

cheers

I guess I assumed that the post I inferred that from meant the player software.