Here is one sexy car mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Here it is

When are you going to learn how to put up an attachment? For an Integra owner, you suck.

Bruno

Damn, you still stink.

Im doing it right but it wont take it dammit here is the link http://www.japanparts.com/Accessories/Honda/mugnintgra/3dr4.jpg
Hey hybrid you should visit team-integra.net sometime not until thursday night though its an awesome site.....sadly the database suffered castastrophic failure and wont be up till Thursday night but it really is a great site Im not lying

Aquasquirrel, the reason your attachment didn't work is because the file was bigger than 100,000 bytes. It was 118,969 bytes.

In the screen where you select the file to upload, it very clearly states the file cannot be over 100,000 bytes.

Just so you know, that's how you get uploads to work: Make them small enough.

I wouldn't touch a Focus. Literally. I certainly wouldn't let anyone I know buy one. There are plenty of used (and even abused) cars out there that are safer than a Focus and will last much longer. You do know that the Focus has already had at least 7 recalls, right? I think it might actually be up to 9 now. If that's not a record....

Anyway, over the next little while, see if you can spot how many cars have the same looks/lines as the cars I've menitioned. The new Civic hatch does its best to look like all the other POS models as well.

And, the best-looking Integra, IMO, was the intial 3rd Gen. The 98 US mod to the rear is good, and some elements of the front are nice, but I prefer the deeper inset lights. I don't like the JDM horizontal light cluster (that was introduced in either 96 or 97 in Japan). It just looks like a 3rd gen model with a piece of 2nd gen stapled to the front.

The RSX should have been a cross between S2000/Prelude/Integra. Instead it's GL-series Volvo/VW Golf/Toyota Paseo/Maxda MX3/Chrysler Neon/Ford Focus/Honda Civic/Big-Yellow-Schoolbus. Now it just looks like one of the crap US-built Hondas.

acurasquirrelly,

I think you are getting hit with the size limitation on the BBS for attachments...

I thought I made them small enought I guess not, I think the RSX should have been called an integra here in the states and should have had the JDM front end and either the s2000 rear or prelude rear. and most of all kept the double-wishbone suspension. I had the pleasure of renting a Focus and boy did that car suck although I was unable to kill it after numerous attempts I gave up.

They still look better than a crap Canada-Built Camaro or Firebird!

I owned a Focus for 2 years (that's how I have my sign on name). Yes it had tons of recalls, I can't defend that. But, I felt safer in a car that was recalled when it needed to be (instead of NOT recalled to save face.) Many of the recalls were minor (but not all). The Focus handles better than many cars twice its price. And it was a BLAST to drive. It even had more room inside, and bigger trunk than my WRX. Right now, it is the car that everyone is copying. IT was the 1999 European Car of the Year (was on sale in Europe 1 year prior to North America) and the 2000 North American Car of the Year and had tons of awards beyond that. I had one for several years and I STILL confuse the new Civic sedan for a Focus from far enough away. I still don't see how you say the Neon looks the same other than realitive size.... the Focus is edgy and the Neon is more round. They both have 4 wheels? Reminds me of some guy on vwvortex that claims everything in the world copies the Audi TT when in fact the TT "borrowed" from just about every old roadster esp. the old Porsches...

So, is there ANY car under $14,000 new that you approve of?

did you read that whole long thread about how the guy got sued by the dealership well that dealership is like a mile from me my roommate used to take his jetta there

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you obviously don't know what type-R means

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Sure I do... It means this.

Don't be so defensive....

I guess I kinda sorta deserved it but that brings up another point I hate kids with stickers as well. I have one sticker on my car oh wait two. A small team-integra.net sticker which is an awesome integra site that isnt for ricers, and a Georgia Tech sticker. Both tasteful. Only one real type-R came to the states the integra type-R and its stickers are fairly small. My favorite thing to do is go up to kids with those stickers and see if they will try and pass their car off as a real type-R if so Ill point out all 50 reasons why it isnt, this works well in front of girls then leave.

I don't want to come off as an ass, but...copying the Ford Focus? Who is? That car is hideous. I suppose the ZX3 and the ZX5 aren't as bad, but the other models took a severe beating with the ugly stick. Especially from the front - those headlights are just awful.

Now if you were talking about a Ford GT40...there's a car. Any car whose predecessor sent Ferrari home crying from Le Mans is good in my book (don't get me wrong, I like Ferrari). Of course, it runs about $85,000 more than the Focus and it isn't actually in production, but still.

You are rebutting my opinion that the Civic's design "borrowed" heavily from the Focus by saying that the Focus is ugly? That is you opinion and has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Take a look at the rear of a Civic 4-door sedan and the rear of a Focus 4-door sedan. See the horizontal chrome trim above the licence plate on both cars? See the height of the trunk lid? See the similar shaped tail lights? Now go to the front of the car. See the similar rakes of the windsheild? See the similar shapes in the head lights? Honda designers even publically praised the Focus (prior to the new Civic's launch).

Like I said, I owned one for two years and sometimes, from far enough away, I still confuse a new Civic sedan for a Focus.

Honestly, I don't think any other car can be considered truly ugly as long as the Aztec exists.

It's sort of a car-karma thing. Every Aztec that rolls off the assembly line makes every other car on the planet better-looking.

Except perhaps that new Cadillac. Saw one of those for the first time with my wife and she said, "what the hell was THAT?, that's disgusting."

I really can't decide on the new CTS Caddie... I see where they were going with it, and are SOOO close, but I don't think it will age well. The wheels are too small for the frame. From a ride-quality/performance standpoint - it is supposed to rock. We have a bunch of them at work here (involved in dealer training).

I still think, design wise, Cadillac is the best thing going for GM at the moment. Their concepts are amazing. Pontiac (minus the Asstec) is a close second.

My biggest pet peeve, is grey plastic all over cars... the older Escorts, the Aztec, the Neons... ick!

To Cadillac's credit, the final design isn't nearly as awful as the earlier concept versions. They toned it down some. Not quite enough, though.

I will definately agreee to the grey plastic thing, what is their deal with this crap. The new Chevy Avalanche has got to be the only thing almost as ugly as the aztec, im not sure which one takes the cake

Let me just say that I'm still chuckling, 20 minutes later, over the "Asstec" comment. I just picture Stan or Kyle saying, "Dude, your car looks like ass."

Honestly, I don't think any other car can be considered truly ugly as long as the Aztec exists.

If you think the Aztek is without peer, I need to show you what Avis rented us in January for our trip to the Rallye Monte Carlo. See attachment. Thank gawd we don't have to look at them over here!!

(We can't blame Fiat for the cheesy banner taped to the roof, but you get the idea.)

Heh, cute. Where do you insert the key to wind it up?

:O

Hmm... we've got these extra lights... could we just beef up the, um... bottom area of the windshield and stick them there? hehe

Oh, this wouldn't be complete without a shot of the dashboard......(attached) This *is* the Installation forum, after all!

Those are the high beam lamps under the windshield. Actually, there were some things about this mini-van that were well thought out, but I got nauseous when I looked at it for too long. They need to fire Salvador Dali!

That shifter placement reminds me of some rally cars....

I'm speachless.

Form follows function, eh?

Hey, at least it has a DIN slot !

Seriously though, while looking odd the Fiat Multipla (which is what is it) is a damn fine car. It is very well designed, fitting six seats into a size of a normal five seater small European car.

Hey, at least it has a DIN slot !

True! I await the thread "Hey, has anybody installed an Empeg in a Fiat Multipla?"

Seriously though, while looking odd the Fiat Multipla (which is what is it) is a damn fine car. It is very well designed, fitting six seats into a size of a normal five seater small European car.

There definitely were functional aspects of it that would be positives for a family of six (that, as you suggest, doesn't want to drive a monster). In five days, I started to get used to the 5-speed shifter sticking out of the dash, and the design really opened up the floor in the front (but the shifter wasn't very precise for whatever reason -- didn't like to go into 4th all the time!). No, Brad, no rally car!

I did *not* get used to having all the instruments off to the side (and that's my one knock on the new Mini). I'm happier diverting my gaze in a straight line to 6:00, not somewhere out at 3:49.

We slept in the car 2 nights and had specified a mini-van for this purpose (thought we'd get maybe a Renault Megane Scenic). The seats in the Multipla didn't recline as much as we might have hoped, nor did the seats slide back very far, so there was no advantage to this part over a sedan (that could also be true of the Megane). It is meant to *seat* the family, for sure.

Oh, one big nit. Since the greenhouse is so big, the *front* windows did not lower all the way into the door! I would expect that in rear windows, perhaps, but I would have a hard time living with that.

We did see a bunch of other mini-van type models (including some newer Renaults) that looked similar in concept/size, but which were certaiinly prettier! Also, there was a VW van -- closer to true van size -- that parked next to us one night that we really lusted after.

The Neon is a profile thing. The bubble profile that seems to be very common right now.

So, is there ANY car under $14,000 new that you approve of?

There are a few cars I think should be priced at 14K that aren't, but I couldn't give up my Integra GSR for anything on the market right now under 30K Canadian. I'm hoping something revolutionary comes out in the next two years. "Revolutionary" only because I think the current status-quo is shite.

BTW, anyone know what some companies choose to make the turn signals on some models red instead of amber? IMO, all turn signals should come stock in amber. No ifs ands or buts about it. Seems to be a US thing. For Honda it seemed to start on their piece of crap US-built models, like the Acura CL (which even my old Acura dealer said never ever to touch). Then even the 98+ Integras had them.

Bruno

yeah hybrid there is a reason the GSR was left largely unchanged for what was it 8 years. Dont screw with a great thing. Alot of people like the all red tails and pay to have them. I have crystal red tails and they looks nice on my white car and look good only on white cars.

That doesn't begin to come close to the pure ugliness of the Aztek.

And c'mon, all Pontiac is complete and utter crap. Design, performance, design, build-quality, smell, etc... I'm going to make sure that I specify in my Will that my body not ever be carried in a GM product of any kind.

Of course no offence to anyone, but you've got to have rocks in your head to buy a Pontiac (any Pontiac). Built for drivers. Drivers who don't know anything about cars, driving, style, ergonomics and don't know what other options are out there. Basically only for people who have a GM-only mentality. I can't believe people buy anything from Cadillac either, but that's another post.

Bruno