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#74316 - 23/02/2002 10:10 Restore visuals borken?
jfriel
new poster

Registered: 17/02/2002
Posts: 6
Loc: IA, USA
I've ugraded to V11 code and when I put Hijack 200+ on, the restore visuals no longer works in the car. Sorry, I skipped several versions before putting v200 on so I don't know exactly where it quit working. It did work with empeg betav7 and hijack 184...

Just FYI

Thanks!

John

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#74317 - 23/02/2002 12:27 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: jfriel]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
It's broken in beta11. No fix. Bug the SonicBlue folks.

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#74318 - 23/02/2002 13:59 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
wow are you serious mark.. there no way to fix that? even with your skills?
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#74319 - 23/02/2002 14:55 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: justinlarsen]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Well, I could fix it, but then SonicBlue would have less incentive to do so in a timely fashion.

Cheers

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#74320 - 24/02/2002 02:43 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
haha ya true.. just kinda of weird not having it anymore.. and its in your menu. maybe ill downgrade.. to get it to work.. till something gets fixed
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#74321 - 24/02/2002 09:30 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: justinlarsen]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Yeah, that's what I did within an hour of trying beta11 -- downgraded to an earlier beta, and haven't gone back.

-ml

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#74322 - 25/02/2002 06:18 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
Fastrack
member

Registered: 29/10/2001
Posts: 137
Loc: Toronto, Ontario Canada
I'm still runing v175 of HiJack because Restore Visuals work in 2.0b11!!!

I know it's old but I like the Restore Visuals Function!
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#74323 - 25/02/2002 07:01 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: Fastrack]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
There's no difference whatsoever in the Restore Visuals code between v175 and later versions. I suspect you "think" it is working because in fact it *will* work sometimes, depending on the visual/info mode chosen in the player software.

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#74324 - 25/02/2002 09:00 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
lothar
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 107
mr. lord:

I downgraded to b7 this weekend to test your theory, but to no avail. Not to make early assumptions, but it seems as if though the restore visuals hack could be broken in your code?

Tonight, I will completely wipe my hard drives and start off with a fresh empeg developer and various hijack versions to see where the "break" occurred.

For me, running b7 or b11 and the latest hijack, I see spurratic behaviour with the restore visuals hack. Sometimes it will attempt to restore visuals on track change, sometimes in the middle of a track, sometimes only when initiated by a remote button press, sometimes a few minutes after boot up, sometimes never.

I will let everyone know the results of my testing this evening.

Regards,

lothar

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#74325 - 25/02/2002 09:07 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: Fastrack]
Fastrack
member

Registered: 29/10/2001
Posts: 137
Loc: Toronto, Ontario Canada
I'll do some more tests but so far, Restore Visuals work just as they did before.

I had the same issue as it would start to restore "after" i pressed skip or sometimes not at ALL. But with version 175 it works as it did with 2.0b7.
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#74326 - 25/02/2002 09:40 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: lothar]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Beta-11 definitely beyond all question breaks "restore visuals". It may work "by accident" in some cases, but it is indeed broken.

Now, the second question is whether or not the newer versions of Hijack are broken. I don't think so, but it may be possible. To help your investigation, here is some insight into how it works within Hijack.

Not that this ONLY applies to DC/CAR mode. Hijack never tries to restore visuals in AC/HOME mode, a fact that is probably confusing at least a few people, since that is normally done by the player but is also badly broken in beta-11.

Hijack looks at the flash savearea to see what info/visual mode was recorded as "active" before the last shutdown. It then changes that information to cause "Info Track" to be used instead (assuming mp3 player mode -- different handling for Tuner/Aux).

Hijack then waits until the "Info Track" information appears on the screen, by looking for the horizontal line under the Artist name line. Once that line appears, Hijack injects the required number of "INFO" button press/release codes to cause the old INFO mode to be restored.

This can break if the button press/release codes are grouped too tightly. Otherwise not.

On a possibly related note, I've been having trouble with the Source.L button lately.. let go too soon and the player powers up again. This is probably a Hijack bug, but I haven't looked too closely yet.

Maybe related?

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#74327 - 25/02/2002 10:03 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Mmmm.. yes, Hijack is also broken here -- found a bug.

I'll fix the "Restore DC/Car Visuals" for v215, but it still won't work with the broken beta-11 player software.

Cheers

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#74328 - 25/02/2002 10:04 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I know Toby did some work before Beta11 to change the way restore visuals works. In what way is it broken (i.e. works for me so far)?

Rob

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#74329 - 25/02/2002 10:23 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: rob]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Take a look at the numerous threads in Bug Reports that deal with this. Basically, the INFO mode is not being restored correctly in Home/Car modes. And this then impairs the ability of Hijack to "reenable" the active VISUAL in DC/Car Mode (which is what this thread is about).

The INFO bug has turned a lot of would-be-beta-users away from beta11, including me.

Cheers

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#74330 - 25/02/2002 14:25 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
lothar
member

Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 107
Success! It is working now as it used to.

Running b7 and Hijack 215.

Regards,

lothar

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#74331 - 26/02/2002 11:58 Re: Restore visuals borken? [Re: mlord]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Ah.. I think that's fixed in the internal build, I'll check with Toby tomorrow.

Rob

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