Giant, a regular poster on the MP3.com car hardware BBS, has been criticising the empeg car player for not having an in-built amplifier. Citing "All the high-end Kenwood models have one" and "how am I supposed to afford a $1000 amp when I can get inbuilt 4x45W amps for sub $200". He seems impervious to the idea that to get larger amounts of power than this you would need an external amplifier, or the idea that any in-built amplifier might not be of as high a quality as an external one. While HighwayDrifter did, IMNSHO, go a bit over the top in his dissing of Giant, appeals to reason don't seem to have worked.

I'm quite happy for them to fight it out over there.

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